Can I suggest you direct message @LondonBroncosRL and ask them to clarify what the future holds ? I did, its easy.

If Wigan bring 1000 fans down with them this weekend it might change things a bit.

In fact we've still got to play Wigan, Saints and Leeds at home yet. I would suggest AK is waiting to see what he brings in from these games before making a decision. Surely the 3 biggest crowds of the year?

Trouble is they dont play us next year. He's not a stupid man and I reckon he can see some potential. Then again he could be the reliable source.

why would/should I ask them? London Broncos is hardly a topic that dominates the sporting landscape, so surely it wouldn't be too much for them to actually answer the question that has already been posed by someone else? They were asked to 100% guarantee that we'd be at the hive next year.....

...or you could let us know what they replied to you. Surely if it was a definite "yes, we'll be at the Hive next year" you'd have posted it by now?



I started this thread based on info I have got from a reliable source.....I have not claimed it is gospel but I have still seen NOTHING to make me think that my source has got it wrong.



BTW, the 4 biggest draw cards yet to visit London means little in the scheme of 2015......Bradford, Saints, Leeds and Wigan are not Fev, Fax, and Leigh. A quick glance at the Championship attendances at Sheffield point to why AK is holding out for some guaranteed income AKA rent!



1,156 average this year, even if you believe that figure is accurate and is based on paying customers



, has delivered about 20k a game on the door for AK.........we really are reaping all that good work done by that Chimp Mackay arent we

Fair enough GF you are the man. You have an answer for everything. So if it proves inaccurate that we aren't at The Hive in 2015 will you f@#k off this board?

Oh dear! I seem to have rattled your cage somewhat.

As for me leaving these boards.....I did that for a while recently and I believe both parties are healthier for it. As such, I'll post when and where I like thanks. If you don't like it, you know where the door is!

Cool, so if your reliable source proves inaccurate, will you apologise for getting it wrong ?

The more I hear of GFs assumption the less convinced I become that his version of events is true. The evidence put forward in the initial post just does not support the house of cards that is being built on it. I can understand the Hive wanting to renegotiate in the circumstances, but I have seen no justification for either side to end Broncos stay. If it is being negotiated then how on earth can anyone answer a question to confirm/ deny a question that asks for 100% certainty in it's response?



Maybe the supporters association can pop the question this weekend.

It would be idiotic of the club to confirm they are off before sorting a new ground. If London announce they are homeless all potential landlords know they have them over a barrel and rents are nailed on to rise. I know Broncos announced they were leaving The Stoop before sorting The Hive deal, hopefully those in charge now have slightly more brains.

But that is the point, his reliable source does not appear to claim that Broncos will be homeless, only that the Hive are not interested in Broncos staying on the same terms as this year. It is an embellishment by GF. I suggest he goes back to his source and gets some clarification.



GF - Did your source say Broncos have no choice but to leave the Hive at the end of the season?

I dont believe GF or his imaginary friend sorry reliable source

Just to clarify what I said and to clear the muddied waters created by PCP et al.

So what are you saying? The Broncos wont be playing at the Hive in 2015 or the Hive dont want us to play there but we will be playing there?

Is English not your first language?

Not sure if the speed at which I type is a problem for you, but here we go AGAIN:



.....the ....hive..... aren't..... interested...... in..... the..... year...... 2.... option... in.... regards.... to....... the...... broncos..... in..... 2015......



Now, this can mean any number of things, one of which is the club having to move again. It also means that we may stay and pay rent, although if the £250k or so in ticket revenue as well as the residual income from bars etc and not forgetting the RFL "stipend" of a Marketing Budget for him to spend..... that our Partner/landlord/potential owner (select what makes you feel warm and fuzzy) has reaped this year isn't enough for him, it does mean we could end up paying more for the Hive than the Stoop was costing us. (£222,244 was the match day costs entered on the 2012 P&L accounts compiled by the supreme African Ball Dropper.....a document sent to me by my imaginary friend BTW)



What happens depends on Hughes and his preparedness to support the club next year and into the future. We get £900,000 or so next year from SKY and the rumoured cap for SL2/The Championship is £1,200,000 so I suspect to "COMPETE" with the top tier of that group, we need to turn over in excess of £2,500,000......I can tell you now that without Hughes propping us up, we have NEVER come within £400,000 of that number...and that was with a damn sight more fans and associated income.



At £20 a ticket (and let's face it, this is championship RL we are talking about.....will we get that much?) and based on 11 home games and then (if we make the middle

4 more home ties, that would require an average attendance of 5,333 after you take the £900,000 parachute payment away from the £2,500,000.



Now, call me a pessimist and no disrespect to the good folk from Fax, Fev and Leigh, but not a snowballs.......not even close. The REALITY is that we will be lucky to get 10% of that required average.....we currently get 21% of it. No sponsors (nor investors) will be interested in a lower tier club, so the shortfall will need to come from an Owner........as the trap door is effectively shutting on us in respect of P&R it will only be down to how guilty Hughes feels for the mess he has created. I believe I have already covered my thoughts on this mess in previous threads

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So, as I said in the first post.....the Hive aren't into the 2nd year option as hastily arranged by Blake Solly at the 11th hour.



They say you reap what you sew and this looks like being a bumper harvest

Hey, lay off him! I think he speaks Sentellins so leave the gratuitous insults to any wiginners around here.



I think he’s just finding it difficult to square the phrase “Homeless in 2015” with “We may stay put and pay rent”. Classing renters as homeless is a wacky idea, even for this forum. It’s not the language he has a problem with, it’s the logic.



By the way if you reap what you sew does that mean your garden is overgrown with cardies? CHEERS

Gratuitous? I don't tip......me and tim roth!





Given one of the things that may occur as a result of the Hive not wanting to have the year 2 option is that we may have to leave, connecting the headline to the "rumoured" problem shouldn't prove too troublesome....even for a northerner







yes.,..along with some nice tank-tops and little blue mittens





Patently the 2014 agreement was a "darned" "stitch up". Solly pulled the "wool" over all of our eyes as he has "designs" on a better job with Knock-down Nigel. Surprised it's taken you this long to "cotton on"



...have i done enough to deflect from my basic spelling error

Thanks joeo, at least someone gets me !!! I guess if I had presented my last statement in 5 paragraphs laiden with fact after fact then GF might have got it.



Its the logic I have an issue with. Your topic title 'Homeless in 2015', wouldnt you say thats rather sensationalist ? As we drill down into the basis of this, referencing your relaible source, there appears to be nothing that gives the headline any credance.



Or has this narrow minded fool

missed something ?

The hive don't want us with a guaranteed 250k + residuals + marketing bribe. What chance 2015?

Good luck removing your head from where it is currently stuck.......

I'm not going to go over your claims for this season again as the investment to allow Broncos to play at the hive is evident to most, but what has these got to do with next season?



The issue is the available revenue this year isn't going to be there next year. The average home fan is paying under £15 when you factor memberships, concessions and kids. With the away fans all but disappearing then the income to the Hive for Broncos staying will drop significantly. My guess is that TK has done the maths and decided the margin next season is too tight to be viable using the current model.

I don't know about everyone else but (assuming we are at the Hive) I'm going to go to more games next year. Id much rather see a winning side in the Super Championship Elite 1 league than a guaranteed loss every year.

I am actually really looking forward to next season (as long as GF is wrong, nothing personal GF).

As i said in an earlier post - i am looking forward to next season. We have a coach, he seems to be building a team and we will have a proper pre-season. OK we will have lost some players, but the last 3/4 seasons we have rarely been competitive and probably havent won 10% of the games we have playsed (i am sure gutters will provided to 4 decimal places.)



But this post is very depressing and i now am worried. I hope at the lunch tomorrow some comment etc is made about next season.

Don't expect any announcements or denials at the lunch tomorrow;even if there was information that event is not the place. We're there to honour our club's great players and build some pride back in the place - turning the "team" into a "club".

I started supporting a club.......I don't care what division they play in or where they play, if they can return to that club ethos again then that's good enough for me.