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Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"The day RL coaches stop winding their players up before a match - and Graham Lowe was one of the fiercest of the lot - is the day they stop coaching. So that's that argument blown out of the water.
The point is simple. Violence in RL is wrong. I haven’t said otherwise.
When it happens, as it did last week, it should be dealt with by due process - which it has been. But when prats like you and, sadly, Graham Lowe, are still grandstanding about it a week later, that's when we're into the realm of glass houses and thrown stones. Plenty of NZ players (as exemplified by the link I posted) and plenty of St Helens players (as exemplified by this the video posted below) - and those two are just snapshots, let's face it - have used violence on the field. So don’t think you can keep on being holier-than-thou about it without everyone starting to realise you’re a bit of a phoney:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj57GvEj2DI'"
I'm not being holier than thou and I haven't been grandstanding. I think the process has dealt with the situation in an exemplary way. I think Flower got an appropriate sentence - no more, no less. Radlinski dealt with the situation well and Flower said what needed to be said. St Helens said the right things and handled the situation superbly especially when McManus said the piece about there being a person behind the player (Flower) and the need to look after him and welcome him back into the game once his suspension has been served. In fact, I think that is what grates people like you, you are so bitter about losing to St Helens that you can't stand the way they have come out of this situation not only with their heads held high but also with a Grand Final Trophy that looked like Wigan's for the taking. It must really stew inside you and that's why you feel the need to come out with silly arguments to try to brush the incident off. Get over it. |
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Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"The day RL coaches stop winding their players up before a match - and Graham Lowe was one of the fiercest of the lot - is the day they stop coaching. So that's that argument blown out of the water.
The point is simple. Violence in RL is wrong. I haven’t said otherwise.
When it happens, as it did last week, it should be dealt with by due process - which it has been. But when prats like you and, sadly, Graham Lowe, are still grandstanding about it a week later, that's when we're into the realm of glass houses and thrown stones. Plenty of NZ players (as exemplified by the link I posted) and plenty of St Helens players (as exemplified by this the video posted below) - and those two are just snapshots, let's face it - have used violence on the field. So don’t think you can keep on being holier-than-thou about it without everyone starting to realise you’re a bit of a phoney:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj57GvEj2DI'"
I'm not being holier than thou and I haven't been grandstanding. I think the process has dealt with the situation in an exemplary way. I think Flower got an appropriate sentence - no more, no less. Radlinski dealt with the situation well and Flower said what needed to be said. St Helens said the right things and handled the situation superbly especially when McManus said the piece about there being a person behind the player (Flower) and the need to look after him and welcome him back into the game once his suspension has been served. In fact, I think that is what grates people like you, you are so bitter about losing to St Helens that you can't stand the way they have come out of this situation not only with their heads held high but also with a Grand Final Trophy that looked like Wigan's for the taking. It must really stew inside you and that's why you feel the need to come out with silly arguments to try to brush the incident off. Get over it. | |
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No world wide coverage and full back page spread...no agenda from the papers, honest.
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| Quote Wire Yed="Wire Yed"No world wide coverage and full back page spread...no agenda from the papers, honest.'"
This has been my point all through this Ben Flower saga. The ridiculous comments from people (most of whom should know better!) has bordered on the hysterical. As that clip quite clearly shows this was nowhere near 'the worst thing ever' comments that people were dragged into making. Only the media gang bang that went on differentiated this incident from hundreds, if not thousands, of others that have occurred in sporting arenas the world over. I hope people take a look at that clip, as well as the many others that have surfaced over the last week or so, and start to get some perspective. Somehow, I doubt it though. | | | |
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