Personally I think I'd keep the pair of them and promote them up the order. I look at Chan at Salford and I still think there is a player there. Last night he was averaging 9 metres a carry and causes issues carrying the ball. I guess there are technical aspects of his game the coaches want him to improve and the same probably goes for Eseh but as 6th, 7th, 8th choice props, I'd be loathed to let them leave yet. I'm also impressed with Makin when I see him as well and he's another who I think can help cover the exits of Hill and Byrne. 

Hull gone public saying they would like to take Eseh permanently but the option on next year is with us and they doubt we will be releasing him. 


I really hope we give him next year to have a run at his long term Wigan career. 

Cartwright knows his stuff and is not holding back with his views on Sam. The Hull coach doesn't seem to suffer fools and putting his thoughts in the public domain suggests he means what he says. He wants to keep him at this stage of the season. There is a long way to go before the season's end and plenty time and games for Sam to improve.


From his comments I do think he's spoken to people at the Wigan club and they've made it clear Sam isn't going anywhere soon.


The loan deal to Hull seems to be working well for both clubs and especially Sam.

I hope he stays and we get to see him because he looks to have come on this season and looks far more athletic than previously. The worry we have though is even if he stays, he'll be able to speak to clubs from this December and we won't have had any chance to take a look at him by then. If the club believe in him long term, trying to extend his deal now would seem wise but from his POV he'd probably be better giving it time. 

Iv had the impression previously that Wigan don't rate him. From memory I think we've had reserve games that Eseh hasn't been picked for and he hasn't even been considered for a first team appearance. 

To me his weaknesses appear to be his lateral movement and defensive contact - will watch Hull on Thursday and see if he's improved.