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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"You've got intimate knowledge of the Warrignton pay structure then?
The majority of guesses at wages of players over estimate what they actually are.'"
No but I highly doubt he's on less than 200k, like a few people have already said.
Problem?
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| Quote Salty="Salty"I love the young players getting into the team but Wigan play a power game so youngsters are less effective because they are not bulked up. Saints can bring in youngsters because they move the ball around and have lots of dummy runners.
Against Harlequins, the first try (Richards') was made by good passing but others (from limited memory) were by personal brilliance...Leuluai 2 individual tries, one made by Leuluai short kick, one by Robert's caiming ball from up and under, one by Tomkins' excellent grubber. Can't remember the other. We need to be able to score tries by good passing in
opponent's thirty. Time for a new coach, Rogue.'"
I don't know. This just proves to me that you can make any result fit any argument. Sure, several of Friday night's tries were scored through individual brilliance. But a few of those responsible for this indvidual brilliance - Carmont, Roberts, Tommy - were all either signed or re-signed b IL, so you could say it shows that he's brought the right personnel in after all (as well as hanging onto the youth that is now flowering).
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"He didn't answer the question. He listed the players Wigan haven't signed who have recently been available, and then stated that he didn't rate most of them - which seemed an odd point to make, to say the least.
Now - while you're being a smartar2s - perhaps you can answer mine?
Do you feel that IL's 1.5 years in the job thus far is sufficient for any of us - not just you or me - to make a firm judgement about his ability to make future signings?
In other words, on the strength of what he's so far not achieved, would you be glad to see the back of him tomorrow? Or, given that we've now got a large, fairly talented and - for the first time in ages - very young squad - would you perhaps give him a couple of seasons more?'"
You need to chill out.
It was a topical question I proposed to see what people thought about IL and if they have faith.
Someone's having a bad day.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"You need to chill out.
It was a topical question I proposed to see what people thought about IL and if they have faith.
Someone's having a bad day.'"
This seems to be a tactic of yours. Make an offhand comment about someone, then, when they respond in kind, either get defensive or pretend you didn't mean anything by it, or both.
Oh, and I'm still waiting for your answer to [umy[/u question.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"This seems to be a tactic of yours. Make an offhand comment about someone, then, when they respond in kind, either get defensive or pretend you didn't mean anything by it, or both.
Oh, and I'm still waiting for your answer to [umy[/u question.'"
I'm not being defensive or anything. Just think you need to chill a little.
It was a not obtrusive question, just wanted to see people's open opinions.
You're question is very dictated. But so far I'm pleased with IL. I have faith, just seems we're running out of options considering who's left available.
Please don't demand answers, it's just not cricket.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"I'm not being defensive or anything. Just think you need to chill a little.
It was a not obtrusive question, just wanted to see people's open opinions.
You're question is very dictated. But so far I'm pleased with IL. I have faith, just seems we're running out of options considering who's left available.
Please don't demand answers, it's just not cricket.'"
I agree IL delivered with Gleeson so there is no reason why he cannot do the same with another player or two.
As fans though we do have the right to be concerned.
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| Quote odemwingie="odemwingie"I agree IL delivered with Gleeson so there is no reason why he cannot do the same with another player or two.
As fans though we do have the right to be concerned.'"
Exactly... that was all I was getting at.
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| Just read in the Express that Richard Owen has rejected a new deal at Castleford, I'd definitely have him at Wigan in the number one jersey, a good young player with pace and would allow us to free up a quota spot. Anybody heard anything of where he might be going, Martin Richards in the Express seems always to get things right, I would say that in my eyes he's the leading RL journalist and is usually the first to get wind of goings on.
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| Quote LovesToSpooge="LovesToSpooge"Just read in the Express that Richard Owen has rejected a new deal at Castleford, I'd definitely have him at Wigan in the number one jersey, a good young player with pace and would allow us to free up a quota spot. Anybody heard anything of where he might be going, Martin Richards in the Express seems always to get things right, I would say that in my eyes he's the leading RL journalist and is usually the first to get wind of goings on.'"
Owen to HKR Briscoe to Wigan.
[size=25Wouldn't that be nice[/size
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Owen to HKR Briscoe to Wigan.
[size=25Wouldn't that be nice[/size'"
Yes it would 
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Owen to HKR Briscoe to Wigan.
[size=25Wouldn't that be nice[/size'"
Id rather have Owen, but if he is turning down contracts at this stage of his career i think we may well see another young talented back heading to Union, still if it does happen its ok, i mean like the Aussies we have a shed load of young talented backs who are able to represent England.........
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