Hansen, Tomkins, Prescott, Coley, who ever you want in there. Until Hock has proven his discipline is not just temporarily held in, I would have him before him too.

Maybe 2 stone is excessive but he is overweight IMO, and he does look like he carries his weight that slow, he is very slow off the mark IMO, but he is quick when he gets going.



I'm a Leeds fan by the way.

Hahahaha, So you've picked two props, when you said 2nd row. And to even suggest that he is better than Hansen, Tomkins and Hock!!! LOL.



Those 3 would excell in a world class side like yours, Ablett at wigan wouldnt do anything. He is average in a class team.

Hansen and Tomkins, don't be stupid.



Prescott and Coley are primarily front rowers.



And Hock? Well you've lost the plot.

I could equally say the same to you.



Are you really talking about the same player here? I am on about Carl Ablett.



You know Carl Ablett who has 2 GF winners medals, same Carl Ablett who has played in two WCC with 1 winners medals.



In that same champion team he is holding down his place where ever asked to play. And you seriously suggest as silly that Hansen and Tomkins are better than him?

Yes if they were in the Leeds team they would be.



Ricky Bibey won two challenge cups - you can polish turd.

Ricky Bibey has two challenge cup medals too, does that make him a good player?



Tomkins and Hansen are better than him at second row clearly. He's gets so much criticism from Leeds supporters it's unreal.

Thats the point. They wouldn't get in the leeds team. They are hardly standing out in the turd you are prodcucing week in week out now.



If they cant stand out in your team, how are they going to do it in a championship team. Which incidentally Ablett is excelling in.

Thats fine by me I just think we get a bit more use out of kylie, I would definitely have Feka at Leeds though.

Hansen - top tackler in SUPER LEAGUE last year



Tomkins - young player of the year at wigan and something like 3rd in super league



How is that not standing out

He doesn't get so much criticism at all. Where you getting that from?



There is difference of opinion with supporters as to whether he should be filling in at centre or we should have recruited a specialist.



Nobody is debating his place in the team. He is a backrower playing out of position sometimes. When in the backrow he excells. He excells to a far greater degree than your backrowers.



Which is why in response to the other poster whith the cr@ppy statistics. Hansen might well have been a high tackler last season. But you were doing a hell of a lot of defending for a start unlike championship sides. Plus Ablett played most of last year in the centres covering, like the good pro he is.

Tony Smith and Brian Mclennan disagree but what would they know about Super League.