freddie???

if only barrett carrot was still at wigan

Don't throw Fredie nuts!

I would not turn away from the hottest emerging UK talent over the fact he missed tackles in one game. Halves aren't primarily signed or developed on the strength of their tackling.



I'd like to see Lockyers tackle stats this week and he's one of the worlds best halves.



Myler was in a poor team against Wigan, again his two performances against Wigan wouldn't deter me, I've also seen him carry a Salford team and put in some outstanding performances.

Don’t jump the gun about the 6/7 we need being signed.



Our front line of the pack, needs to be dealt with first and that is our main priority



The back line of the pack, are superb in places.

No-one gets close to G. Hock’s standard of game, throughout the league in that position.

I believe S. O’Loughlin needs to be moved to Second Row on the right hand side, very good defence, but very good attack, something that’s currently lacking within the area.

Loose Forward is an area the young J. Tomkins could become a natural too, given the match time to develop to that position he could be superb.

L. Mossop is one of the biggest talents currently up and coming, without doubt next year, he’ll be bench.

H. Hansen is a player I do not rate, simply not good enough for us, with the talent around him, very good defence I’ll admit, but go forward poor at best.

M. Riddell in the middle of all of these, will become a better player, the guy is quality, people are just to quick to jump on his back. M. McIlorum is doing very well in such a key position the guy as some much pressure on his shoulders and to deal with that I respect the young lad greatly.



The props are the area, we need to develop soon, simply all our props are not good enough.

I wouldn’t keep a single one of them if possible.

A. Coley is playing very well at the minute, but I think he’ll leave come the end of the season, shame but are his performances just to earn that deal? Will they continue, only club staff will answer that.

S. Fielden hasn’t had a poor season, people are to quick to jump in his back due to his wage bill, if you look at his stats, the effort and knowledge behind the scenes he puts in, he’s nearly worth it.

Feka an opinion of mine is he needs to lose a slight bit of weight and the staff and players around him need to control him, telling him to run from deep. All O’Loughlin as to do is whisper in is ear, stood by his side usually.

The younger props, P. Prescott, simply needs to be loaned out, prove he can play a whole season and challenged other props. Not playing in front of fans with such big expectations would help him I feel.

E. O’Carroll quite a shame this season, playing very well and now he needs yet another op on his foot.



To fill the front line with what we need, we should be looking at players like L. Burgess, N. Cayless. The Griffin signing will help us till the end of the season I believe, he’ll give us much more in go-forward, something completely missing this year.



The back line I have no problems with, the odd tweak yes, nothing major.



A. Roberts, P. Richards or C. Phelps at fullback are good enough, with them they we can win games, but to add a lot more to our attack, we need a good game reading FB (Clint Greenshields) is a FB I hold a very high opinion of, reads the game very well, popping up in the right plays all the time, ball on the full 85% of the time, making very good yards carrying the ball back to the line.



Wingers, A. Roberts is our right winger for years to come, he’s becoming more and more confident with every game, yes he's made errors, he make's up for in try saving tackles/cutting the overlap out. P. Richards should be the left winger full time, he could have a complete field game every game, taking the ball outer the air in the corner, out jumping any winger, do we use this move much these days?

S. Ainscough, talented young lad, ready for SL, we could argue all day and night, saying yes and no, needs a few more months in the reserves to develop certain aspects of his game.



M. Gleeson is fairly quiet at the minute, could be due to him and A. Roberts developing a bond, but the main reason I believe is having a very poor second rower at his side. S. O’Loughlin at the side of him, would increase both the attacking side and defensive side of that wing. G. Carmont, one season the guy’s under-rated the next completely over-rated, the season will show if he’s become an injury prone player, which will show if he gets the contract extension or not.



Now the half’s - Seems to be the biggest talking point on this topic.



S. Tomkins is a 6 for the next few seasons, developing into a 7, 3to4 seasons down the line. Does his partnership with T. Leuluai work, simple answer no. We do need a new experienced 7, the rotation I’d play would be from the start.



6 - New Signing

7 - T. Leuluai

9 - Riddell



20 minutes into the game



6 - S. Tomkins

7 - New Signing

9 - T. Leuluai



T. Leuluai is one of the fittest players within our side, the lad could play an 80mintue game, every game of the season. M. McIlorum could do with the same as Prescott, a year to develop with huge expectations off they shoulders.



Who should the new signing be?



S. Myler - I’d love it, but the risk of playing two such young half’s is suicide in this current style of rugby. Could two young half’s play well under such huge expectations, with one bad game meaning you have the fans pulling your hair. The guy has been linked with Warrington as far as I know, just talk, as it is with us. I believe the guy will see his contract out with Salford, very respectful player. The 7 we’ll sign will be over the age of 28.



Number One priority to us, would be D. Lockyer, yes he’s a 6, the guy could play 6,7 and have a half decent shot of playing well at 1 still with the knowledge the guy has of the game.

M. Orford comes in at a close 2nd, proven winner, great attitude to the sport, great kicking and passing game, proven the ability of playing under pressure.

B. Kimmorley is a no, no at his age and current standard.

B. Finch is an interesting one, a player who walks from a club, do we want that sort of player? Will he leave Storms if they don’t sign anyone might sign another deal. He is a very good player, NSW quality.



On another note B. Noble, will remain at the club, once the inconsistency has been removed, the team will move on leaps and bounds, until then the club needs the support of us no matter what. People will always wine about an underperforming team and an underperforming player. Players seeing there names bad named on such places as here can’t help, in this current situation can it? We need to change our ways as much as they do. The atmosphere within the JJB as become poor over the past few seasons, it needs to change. Turn our ground into a place were teams are scared of coming.

Was with you most of the way until the last paragraph. I also think a Prop is a priority over a half.



Good first post though, welcome to the board.

Surely I can have a little snip

It goes on throughout all the social networking sites I know. But reading alot on here, Most seriously don't have a clue do they

Yes he has.

Everything else is pretty spot on though

He's had an average season, not poor, as he's not mouthed off by the press and BBC/Sky presenters as playing badly, he's un-noticed, (AVERAGE)

We need to start playing better rugby first. How's a fan supposed to "get up" for a game when you walk to the ground unconfident about beating a Salford side we beat the week before. Noble also needs to fook off, that would give the fans a huge lift.

This is really not a great idea. Moving your half backs about in the match is a recipe for lack of consistency.



Further, what makes you think Lockyer is going to be playing at 7? He is a 6, or a fullback. Not a 7.



Why is Kimmorley a no no? He is having a great season with the Bulldogs. But I guess you have not watched the NRL in any great depth.

It's inconsistent until them players are use to doing it regular, like our current team, can't consistently do the basics





The qualities needed as a 7, are by far covered in Lockyer's CV, he'd have no problems playing that role.



Kimmorley yes a no no, a great season is abit over the top isn't it? I watch as much NRL as I can, but I can't watch it all the time.

How do you know that Lockyer can play at scrum half to the required standard when he has not played it before at a high level? This is just daft! If you want a stand off, buy Lockeyer. If you want a scrum half, do not buy a stand off! Pretty simple.



If you have not, by your own admission, seen much of Kimmorley this year playing for the Dogs, how can you cast a serious judgement?

www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source= Many moons have passed and still no signed deal at Brisbane Show me a recent link of Brett K to SL. He's a no simple as, no need to explain. As for playing Lockyer at 7, after many years of watching the guy play the sport at the top level, I feel, as I suppose many will on here, he ould perform the role of scrum half with ease.

www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source= Many moons have passed and still no signed deal at Brisbane Show me a recent link of Brett K to SL. He's a no simple as, no need to explain. As for playing Lockyer at 7, after many years of watching the guy play the sport at the top level, I feel, as I suppose many will on here, he ould perform the role of scrum half with ease.

Lockyer despite having dodgy knees could still do a job in superleague, he isn't a flash in the pan sort of NRL player who would fade into insignificance he would rule the roost and the Lockyer factor would propel us into the top 3. If we were in for a prop they would come for slightly less if they had the chance to play with Lockyer.



6- Lockyer

7- Leuluai



14- S.Tomkins



Also Morley and LMS.

Leuluai is not a scrum half!

I agree there

going back to the myler thing, anyone think the fact martin offiah is his agent it might swing it for us rather than wire.

Probably not. I'd say Smith being his international coach and the man who's give him his break at that level will have more of a baring.

No. I think the fact that Offiah is his agent will mean he goes to the highest bidder.

Am i correct in thinking that Myler is Offiah's first client?



If so then he will be wanting to get as much as he can out of the deal.

How unbearable is all this toing and froing from one name to the next?



Sometimes I yearn for a return to the days when the only gossip you heard was in the pub, and most of the time you took it with a pinch of salt.

Offiah always calls Myler the next Sean Long, is he going to move into a caravan and bet on Salford to lose?