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| Quote Johnny Headline="Johnny Headline"Wheres Grimmy when i want to be smug?????
i could use the quote facility!!!'"
I'm here, show me where I said it won't happen
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| Quote nikos="nikos"has the salary cap been repealed, or has Dr Cockrash just decided to take the points deduction?'"
Salford have only retained a few players from the entire squad from last year, so he is starting with pretty much a blank sheet in regards to the cap. Plus the ones retained wouldn't have been on much at all. He states on twitter after being asked about the cap saying there's still room to bring someone else in although unlikely before the start of the season.
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| Quote nikos="nikos"has the salary cap been repealed, or has Dr Cockrash just decided to take the points deduction?'"
Neither, Koukash has just decided to spend the same as the likes of Wigan, Leeds, Warrington etc for the first time in Salford's Super League history.
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| yep Salford are spending up to the cap with higher profile players, where as Wigan have spread their salary over 37-38 players most of whom will likely figure in the 2014 season and not be overawed by it.......Salford may be a bit top heavy by paying higher fees to get the top talent in so may struggle if they get major injuries as the back up players are not likely to be as good.
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| We've got a lot of top talent to replace after having the likes of Joel Moon, Matty Smith, Daniel Holdsworth, Richie Myler, Stefan Ratchford, Jordan Turner and so on taking away from us in the past by clubs willing to throw their cash around.
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| A stupid decision by the club.
Wave a cheque book and IL sells.
I am sure there will be the odd apologist making out that at 28 he's past it or whatever (it usually gets said about any player who leaves) but that would be silly in Hansen's case.
We have sold Salford arguably the best 2nd row pairing in the league. It's better than ours for next season IMO at any rate.
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| Queue all the nay-sayers predicting the exodus will leave us with a few kids who'll win nowt, Wane know nothing & Lenagan is a greedy leech.
It was about this time last year when it all started to kick off for exactly the same reasons - having learned to keep programming computers & not trying to second guess the coaching staff, who know a shed load more than me, I'll just stand back & point.
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| It's always disappointing to see a player who's been here so long play for another club but we do already have the quality in abundance in that position at Wigan, looking forward to see how Hughes/Burke/Bateman/Lloyd/Gelling/Clubb react to this, massive opportunity for these young lads who all have bags of talent.
I'd like to see us spend some money on a real quality back.
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds"Neither, Koukash has just decided to spend the same as the likes of Wigan, Leeds, Warrington etc for the first time in Salford's Super League history.'"
At least the ones mentioned above manage to offset the spending by getting a few punters through the turnstiles 
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| The aforementioned also have enjoyed sustained periods of success recently which has obviously assisted with their attendances. I fully expect our attendances in 2014 to double and in some cases treble in comparison to last year.
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds"The aforementioned also have enjoyed sustained periods of success recently which has obviously assisted with their attendances. I fully expect our attendances in 2014 to double and in some cases treble in comparison to last year.'"
Let's hope so. It would be a shame of Koucash's investments weren't repaid by the fans.
The game needs more clubs who can produce respectable attendances.
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| Quote FIOS="FIOS"It's always disappointing to see a player who's been here so long play for another club but we do already have the quality in abundance in that position at Wigan,'"
None of whom were good enough to win Hansen's place off him and the recruits are either young such as Bateman and Hopkins or not as good (Clubb).
This puts massive pressure on Wane to bring out a performance up to Hansen's standard from one or more of these players if we are not to be weaker next season. That is a massive ask of any coach given the lack of experience many of them have.
I think this will prove one sale too many.
BTW, didn't Wane say after either Sam or Mossop left not one else was going anywhere? 
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"...BTW, didn't Wane say after either Sam or Mossop left not one else was going anywhere?
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And maybe he thought that that was the case.
Good luck to Hansen.
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| must have a huge amount of cap space left especially if powell and lauaki leave. not sure who to buy realistically but i can't see us not signing at least 1 more now.
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| I was under the impression that the salary cap is the same for eveyone in the league? In which case, why the concern that we are buying players to put into our depleted squad? It seems it's ok for the likes of Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Warrington to splash the cash and fill their squads with quality, but not little old Salford? And the last time I looked, Salford have never been docked points for any breach of the salary cap, let alone the biggest in the Super League's history. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Besides, if our signings are all a load of has-beens and never will-be's you will have nothing to fear and we will just go on our merry way...
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| Quote dubairl="dubairl"must have a huge amount of cap space left especially if powell and lauaki leave. not sure who to buy realistically but i can't see us not signing at least 1 more now.'"
Doesn't Powell's salary not count on the cap anyway because he's an RU convert? If Lauaki is still contracted, which he is, then his wages will still count. They'll only not count if he's signed by another club or retires.
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| HH used to do an awful amount of 'blocking up' the middle of the field.
Just like the Ian Potters and Mick Cassidys of old, they take a lot of replacing that hard graft. Most fans don't see them, they/we just miss them when not around.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"Doesn't Powell's salary not count on the cap anyway because he's an RU convert? If Lauaki is still contracted, which he is, then his wages will still count. They'll only not count if he's signed by another club or retires.'"
sign another but younger union player, Matt banahan would be my choice massive winger and fast. Lauaki future lies away from wigan what ever that means so can't count on the cap. richards, hansen, mossop, lauaki , part of sams salary a big part of it anyway and didn't prescott still count on the cap last season or have i lost a season?
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| Disappointing bit of business, but good luck to Harrison, happy he's got a nice increase in Salary, he definitely deserves it.
But we're significantly weaker in the second row now. Not many can match H's work rate, intensity or tackling. We certainly don't have anybody right now who can fill his shoes in the same magnitude.
Gutted.
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| Strange move
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| Quote Conroy="Conroy"Strange move'"
Not really.
The current culture at Wigan is, everybody is for sale.
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| Sell him now or lose him end of next season for nothing. its a no brainer really
i really dont see what all the fuss is about. if anyone is to 'blame' its hansen for wanting to leave but should he be blamed for doing whats best for himself? no he shouldnt
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"=#FF0000A stupid decision by the club.
Wave a cheque book and IL sells.
I am sure there will be the odd apologist making out that at 28 he's past it or whatever (it usually gets said about any player who leaves) but that would be silly in Hansen's case.
We have sold Salford arguably the best 2nd row pairing in the league. It's better than ours for next season IMO at any rate.'"
What is stupid about letting a player leave after he asked to go. It would be more stupid to hold him against his will. He wanted to leave for his own reasons and we let him go for a fee. He would have moved to Salford at the end of 2014 for nothing. Good player and I am gutted he is going but no player is irreplaceable. 4 years is a big contract for him, I don't think he has 4 years left in him and he would be a fool not to take it up.
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| Quote Lippy="Lippy"What is stupid about letting a player leave after he asked to go. It would be more stupid to hold him against his will. He wanted to leave for his own reasons and we let him go for a fee. He would have moved to Salford at the end of 2014 for nothing. Good player and I am gutted he is going but no player is irreplaceable. 4 years is a big contract for him, I don't think he has 4 years left in him and he would be a fool not to take it up.'"
Seems that H had said he would be leaving at the end of next season anyway, so seems odd that some people ONCE AGAIN feel its the fault of the club. If he wants to go early, then get a fee, it would be foolish to act otherwise.
That said, I'm gutted to see him go, one of my favourite players and a hell of a nice guy too. As has been stated, he does the hard graft that people don't always notice, hard working and always dependable. Good luck H, and thanks.
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| We've let a 28 year old solid grafter with shattered wrists go one year early for a substantial fee, and we have Bateman, Hopkins, Clubb, Burke and Hughes all pushing for two back row spots, plus maybe Pettybourne too but I see him more as a prop. I would have liked to at least have H on board for the WCC but this is far from a stupid decision. The sky is always just about to fall in on these boards 
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