If Hock is to leave for 2014 it gives us time to plan for it, it would have been very difficult to replace him or have a reasonable plan of action if he had gone in this off season so suddenly.

That was a major annoyance of him suddenly seeming to want to go. If it'd come about earlier in the season we could've potentially put a top offer in for Ellis.

We did that anyway

I know we put an offer in, no idea of the size of it, either way with Hock off the books we could've offered more. Unless we were offering over the odds anyway.

Do we need a bit more zip out wide? This lad might be new to rugby but at 10.13 for the 100 he can shift. Let's offer him a house in Euxton and an incentivised deal www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lanet.html

Do we need a bit more zip out wide? This lad might be new to rugby but at 10.13 for the 100 he can shift. Let's offer him a house in Euxton and an incentivised deal www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lanet.html

Quote Dai Jones="Dai Jones"Do we need a bit more zip out wide? This lad might be new to rugby but at 10.13 for the 100 he can shift. Let's offer him a house in Euxton and an incentivised deal www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lanet.html'" Can you imagine having him running alongside Sam? Bloody hell. We can but dream.

Quote Dai Jones="Dai Jones"Do we need a bit more zip out wide? This lad might be new to rugby but at 10.13 for the 100 he can shift. Let's offer him a house in Euxton and an incentivised deal www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lanet.html'" Can you imagine having him running alongside Sam? Bloody hell. We can but dream.

He's training with us in Florida.

Training as a player or sprint coach?

Have a look at this 12 year old in Australia. Particularly the last leg run (bottom video clip) www.youtube.com/channel/UCCpy6Hc ... ture=watch www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-cl ... 6534033559 11.72 for the 100 metres as an U12.

Have a look at this 12 year old in Australia. Particularly the last leg run (bottom video clip) www.youtube.com/channel/UCCpy6Hc ... ture=watch www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-cl ... 6534033559 11.72 for the 100 metres as an U12.

Quote Dai Jones="Dai Jones"Do we need a bit more zip out wide? This lad might be new to rugby but at 10.13 for the 100 he can shift. Let's offer him a house in Euxton and an incentivised deal www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lanet.html'" Bet he couldn't defend for toffee! Only been playing for 12 weeks. Any sprinter could play sevens.

Quote Dai Jones="Dai Jones"Do we need a bit more zip out wide? This lad might be new to rugby but at 10.13 for the 100 he can shift. Let's offer him a house in Euxton and an incentivised deal www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lanet.html'" Bet he couldn't defend for toffee! Only been playing for 12 weeks. Any sprinter could play sevens.

Inglis would rip the poor sod to pieces... he does that with established players fair enough, but still!

People said the same about Offiah. Didn't stop him becoming a phenomenon.



But then, I suppose they said it about Gary Henley-Smith too ... and it did.



Ah well ...

Agreed. Surely if it was just about speed then Dwayne Chambers would have been sensational for Cas. How many games did he play? 3?

Just 1 wasn't it. A reserve game against York or Doncaster. Looked very quick from memory. In fact Chambers is quicker than the septic tank.

Looks very much like an early Offiah, has a bit of evasiveness as well as the speed.

Looks like we've signed ex Wigan youngster Matt Sarsfield, he was at Huddersfield last year but asked for a release apparently. I remember him being highly rated at Wigan.

Interesting to read in League Weekly that Burgess turned down Wigan to join his brothers at Souths - assume this means that Wane would like more strength in the pack for 2013.

Waney would like 17 props in his team each week but IFL keeps him in check!

I can believe that, when you look at strength in depth the wing is probably the weakest position right now. It's either Thornley or Gelling playing out of position or Burgess running out for a debut. Our third best winger is Darrell Goulding but it seems to be sacrilege to condone using him as back up even though we have two promising centres in the reserves

Wing is the most expendable position and easiest covered by other players. How many teams carry a spare winger as part of their 25 men squad?

The days of the specialist winger are a distant memory.

Well if you believe some of the stories knocking around on other forums Hock will be leaving us and signing for Wakefield, or another good one is 2 of our players have been done for taking performance enhancing drugs but we are keeping a lid on it and said players will be shipped off to the NRL and never play another game for Wigan.



So it appears not only are we bigger than the RFL we are also bigger than WADA.



It's a very slow off season this year!

We even do rumours better than everybody else..... FIOS... lol

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