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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Quote Rogues Gallery="Sadfish"Quote Rogues Gallery="Jason65"Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.'"
as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.
In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.'"
And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!
I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even'"
See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.
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| Quote Jason65="Jason65"Quote Jason65="Rogues Gallery"Quote Jason65="Sadfish"Quote Jason65="Jason65"Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.'"
as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.
In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.'"
And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!
I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even'"
See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.'"
No one, outside of top 10 Soccer teams goes into a sport and expects to make a profit, they always hope to break even.
In fact, there is an old saying, "if you are in profit you aren't even really trying to be a succesful team"
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| Quote Sadfish="Sadfish"Quote Sadfish="Jason65"Quote Sadfish="Rogues Gallery"Quote Sadfish="Sadfish"Quote Sadfish="Jason65"Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.'"
as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.
In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.'"
And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!
I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even'"
See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.'"
No one, outside of top 10 Soccer teams goes into a sport and expects to make a profit, they always hope to break even.
In fact, there is an old saying, "if you are in profit you aren't even really trying to be a successful team"'"
I believe what we are trying to say is that we all want the sport of RL to survive and maybe prosper.
We are not soccer.
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| We aren't Premier League, but many of the lower leagues are similar and clubs almost always run at a loss if not break even, only a hadful of clubs in any UK sport runs at the profit.
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| Quote Jason65="Jason65"Quote Jason65="Sadfish"Quote Jason65="Jason65"Quote Jason65="Rogues Gallery"Quote Jason65="Sadfish"Quote Jason65="Jason65"Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.'"
as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.
In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.'"
And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!
I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even'"
See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.'"
No one, outside of top 10 Soccer teams goes into a sport and expects to make a profit, they always hope to break even.
In fact, there is an old saying, "if you are in profit you aren't even really trying to be a successful team"'"
I believe what we are trying to say is that we all want the sport of RL to survive and maybe prosper.
We are not soccer.'"
Burnley did.
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| Quote Sadfish="Sadfish"
In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.'"
That is why I never understand when guys like LeBron 69 on here or Mav on Twitter (who I suspect is one and the same) celebrate when a big rival makes a financial loss, even more so when those rivals are the biggest teams in the game. If Saints and Wigan are making big losses, that’s an issue for the whole game and we should all be slightly nervous about it’s general health. There are reasons behind those losses and in both cases, the clubs are owned/part owned by guys who can cover it but it isn’t a good look and we need IMG to turn the tide across the board.
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| Genuinely don't understand how Wakefield were the only club to record a profit in FY2021. A year blighted by Covid, where attendances were impacted and players and staff still needed to be paid.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Quote NickyKiss="Sadfish"
In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.'"
That is why I never understand when guys like LeBron 69 on here or Mav on Twitter (who I suspect is one and the same) celebrate when a big rival makes a financial loss, even more so when those rivals are the biggest teams in the game. If Saints and Wigan are making big losses, that’s an issue for the whole game and we should all be slightly nervous about it’s general health. There are reasons behind those losses and in both cases, the clubs are owned/part owned by guys who can cover it but it isn’t a good look and we need IMG to turn the tide across the board.'"
I know I cannot for the life of me understand why some idiot celebrates a team that is struggling with debt surely you would want RL to be viable and successful as a sport,after all most of us love the game as we give money and time to watch,play etc.As without teams to play we have no sport.
If other teams supporters would travel in numbers like a Wigan or Saints or Warrington that would help the coffers going in to the clubs.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Genuinely don't understand how Wakefield were the only club to record a profit in FY2021. A year blighted by Covid, where attendances were impacted and players and staff still needed to be paid.'"
That was definitely an eyebrow raiser to say the very least.
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| Quote Sweaty Betty's="Sweaty Betty's"Quote Sweaty Betty's="Jason65"Quote Sweaty Betty's="Sadfish"Quote Sweaty Betty's="Jason65"Quote Sweaty Betty's="Rogues Gallery"Quote Sweaty Betty's="Sadfish"Quote Sweaty Betty's="Jason65"Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.'"
as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.
In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.'"
And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!
I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even'"
See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.'"
No one, outside of top 10 Soccer teams goes into a sport and expects to make a profit, they always hope to break even.
In fact, there is an old saying, "if you are in profit you aren't even really trying to be a successful team"'"
I believe what we are trying to say is that we all want the sport of RL to survive and maybe prosper.
We are not soccer.'"
Burnley did.'"
Burnley’s new owners have bought the club with a loan and sold most of the players worth anything, they’ve invested a small amount of that and appointed a good manager but if I was a Burnley fan I’d be very worried if they don’t go up this season.
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as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.
In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.'"
And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!
I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even'"
See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.'"
No one, outside of top 10 Soccer teams goes into a sport and expects to make a profit, they always hope to break even.
In fact, there is an old saying, "if you are in profit you aren't even really trying to be a successful team"'"
I believe what we are trying to say is that we all want the sport of RL to survive and maybe prosper.
We are not soccer.'"
Burnley did.'"
Burnley’s new owners have bought the club with a loan and sold most of the players worth anything, they’ve invested a small amount of that and appointed a good manager but if I was a Burnley fan I’d be very worried if they don’t go up this season.'"
That's true but they still made a profit under their previous owners.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"Quote MadDogg="MattyB"Genuinely don't understand how Wakefield were the only club to record a profit in FY2021. A year blighted by Covid, where attendances were impacted and players and staff still needed to be paid.'"
That was definitely an eyebrow raiser to say the very least.'"
It's hard to judge as they only publish abridged accounts so we don't know if they counted the government covid loans as income or how they used the furlough scheme?
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Quote Rogues Gallery="MadDogg"Quote Rogues Gallery="MattyB"Genuinely don't understand how Wakefield were the only club to record a profit in FY2021. A year blighted by Covid, where attendances were impacted and players and staff still needed to be paid.'"
That was definitely an eyebrow raiser to say the very least.'"
It's hard to judge as they only publish abridged accounts so we don't know if they counted the government covid loans as income or how they used the furlough scheme?'"
COVID and the furlough scheme has a lot to answer for.
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| I wonder if we knew Bateman was going we have pushed to sign Rushton
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| Quote NSW="NSW"I wonder if we knew Bateman was going we have pushed to sign Rushton'"
Nowhere near good enough IMO.
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| INOUT Quote NSW="NSW"I wonder if we knew Bateman was going we have pushed to sign Rushton'"
We should have pushed to retain Nicholson.
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| Quote Zig="Zig"INOUTQuote Zig="NSW"I wonder if we knew Bateman was going we have pushed to sign Rushton'"
We should have pushed to retain Nicholson.'"
Agreed
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Quote MattyB="NSW"I wonder if we knew Bateman was going we have pushed to sign Rushton'"
Nowhere near good enough IMO.'"
And the wrong fit fot a Bateman replacement, we don't need another lightweight prop we need a rangy 2nd row.
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| Quote Simba16="Simba16"Quote Simba16="MattyB"Quote Simba16="NSW"I wonder if we knew Bateman was going we have pushed to sign Rushton'"
Nowhere near good enough IMO.'"
And the wrong fit fot a Bateman replacement, we don't need another lightweight prop we need a rangy 2nd row.'"
We have Big Willie Isa
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| A guy on the other forum, who is definitely in the know (not Dan) has stated that a RL Agent has told him we are chasing JWH and Thompson.
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| Quote Zig="Zig"A guy on the other forum, who is definitely in the know (not Dan) has stated that a RL Agent has told him we are chasing JWH and Thompson.'"
If DDTFTF says it's true then majority of the time it comes true
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| Quote Simba16="Simba16"Quote Simba16="MattyB"Quote Simba16="NSW"I wonder if we knew Bateman was going we have pushed to sign Rushton'"
Nowhere near good enough IMO.'"
And the wrong fit fot a Bateman replacement, we don't need another lightweight prop we need a rangy 2nd row.'"
We've got one coming through.
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| Quote The Whiffy Kipper="The Whiffy Kipper"Quote The Whiffy Kipper="Zig"A guy on the other forum, who is definitely in the know (not Dan) has stated that a RL Agent has told him we are chasing JWH and Thompson.'"
If DDTFTF says it's true then majority of the time it comes true'"
I can’t see how we’d be able to bring one of those guys in let alone two and be under the cap
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| Quote WWste="WWste"Quote WWste="The Whiffy Kipper"Quote WWste="Zig"A guy on the other forum, who is definitely in the know (not Dan) has stated that a RL Agent has told him we are chasing JWH and Thompson.'"
If DDTFTF says it's true then majority of the time it comes true'"
I can’t see how we’d be able to bring one of those guys in let alone two and be under the cap'"
Bateman is on marquee money so in terms of the salary cap it isn’t an issue.
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| Quote Zig="Zig"Quote Zig="WWste"Quote Zig="The Whiffy Kipper"Quote Zig="Zig"A guy on the other forum, who is definitely in the know (not Dan) has stated that a RL Agent has told him we are chasing JWH and Thompson.'"
If DDTFTF says it's true then majority of the time it comes true'"
I can’t see how we’d be able to bring one of those guys in let alone two and be under the cap'"
Bateman is on marquee money so in terms of the salary cap it isn’t an issue.'"
But surely both of those players would want marquee money or a big chunk of money
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