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| In our squad we have some absolutely fantastic players - individuals who would be selected for and perform admirably for any team in either code - and we are on the brink of a new season. The forthcoming season will give us moments of triumph and heart-break. We will see exhilerating rugby from our team and from other teams. We will laugh together in the stands and we will grumble over the errors, mistakes and missed opportunities until the bell for last orders rings in our ears. Nothing has changed. I love Wigan and have done since my father took me to my first game back when we were a relegated team. I truly hope we will earn some silverware this year, but if we don't then I will be a happy supporter simply because I will have been thoroughly entertained from start to finish. I'm sorry but I cannot find it within myself to get miserable and jaundiced about the future simply because we might not have recruited to the demands of some supporters. We watch a sport. We love that sport and we love our team. My life would be incomplete without it.
God, I'm excited - bring it on!
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| When Tommy came to Wigan (in the wake of the Moran disaster) he wasn't this great NRL star that had come to save us. He was just a half decent young half back from Harlequins, in fact it was Moran who came to us from Quins with a much bigger reputation having performing well the previous season.
I thought Tommy blew very hot & cold under Noble and it was only in his final three years under Maguire & Wane plus cementing himself as a World Cup winning international did he perform consistently well thus elevating himself to be become arguably a world class player.
Will Blake Green be a Tommy or a Dennis Moran? Not sure yet, (the previews look promising) so hopefully the former. But let's not crucify the lad five games in if he's not killing it out on the field straight away.
With Matty Smith, he thrives on the back of a strong pack and has talent without doubt. I do think he's a confidence player though.
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| Quote ChrisA="ChrisA"I've never seen such a lack of discussion, even in the off season. I guess most seem to share my view that there isn't that much new to look forward to. A major exodus of talent with no amazing new signings to buzz about.
I really haven't felt this flat and lethargic about our club in a long time. I guess SL in general is going through bad times. I know compared to some clubs we shouldn't complain at all, but its all relative to the club you support.
The season is what, 7 weeks away and I'm really not that bothered at the moment.'"
I think its mainly down to people finding other things to do rather than post on forums.
Its been getting quieter and quieter for months, a lot of regulars who would post non stop all day seem to have dissappeared.
other than that, most subjects have been done to death, leading to lack of interest. Its that simple.
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| Quote the hedonic calculator="the hedonic calculator"In our squad we have some absolutely fantastic players - individuals who would be selected for and perform admirably for any team in either code - and we are on the brink of a new season. The forthcoming season will give us moments of triumph and heart-break. We will see exhilerating rugby from our team and from other teams. We will laugh together in the stands and we will grumble over the errors, mistakes and missed opportunities until the bell for last orders rings in our ears. Nothing has changed. I love Wigan and have done since my father took me to my first game back when we were a relegated team. I truly hope we will earn some silverware this year, but if we don't then I will be a happy supporter simply because I will have been thoroughly entertained from start to finish. I'm sorry but I cannot find it within myself to get miserable and jaundiced about the future simply because we might not have recruited to the demands of some supporters. We watch a sport. We love that sport and we love our team. My life would be incomplete without it.
God, I'm excited - bring it on!'"
This! A thousand times this! Don't care about the perceived "quality" or about league games not meaning much, I can't wait to sit down and watch some rugby league again!
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Of this perceived mini recruitment crisis I think there is a certain amount of Rose tinted memories knocking about.
Tommy and Carmont were outstanding players without doubt and Smith and whoever replaces George have a major task on their hands.
Lima and Finch though are another story completely. In their first season they were outstanding but in my opinion their form dropped off significantly last year. Lima lost his impact and was significantly quieter, Finch at times showed sparks of genius but most of the time especially when it counted he was poor.
Taylor I anticipate will go on to be regarded as one of the best Props of his generation and I feel he will improve our team on Lima of last year from the off. Blake is a tough one, but again whilst he may not have the pedigree of Finch, in the big games, when it counts, I doubt he will play as poorly as Finch did for us last year.'"
Agree with a lot of this too. For me round about when FInch & Lima both announced they were off they really stopped performing. Was more obvious with Finch for me, we needed him to step up when Tommy was injured and he really didn't deliver, instead relying on the same play (usually the flat pass to Hock) over and over again
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| Quote TaxingChimp="TaxingChimp"a014.gif
This! A thousand times this! Don't care about the perceived "quality" or about league games not meaning much, I can't wait to sit down and watch some rugby league again!'"
Normally me neither, but it's the direction that the sport I love is going in that's the problem.
If it carries on, we won't have a rugby league to watch.
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| For the first time in 15 years, I nearly didn't buy a season ticket. I eventually bought my two then a few hours later even rang up to cancel them, then a day later decided to buy them back again and give it one last year. If it's just as bad or worse next season then i'll just pick and choose my games in future.
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| Quote Conroy="Conroy"Normally me neither, but it's the direction that the sport I love is going in that's the problem.
If it carries on, we won't have a rugby league to watch.'"
We're going to lose some big names no doubt, but we need to keep producing and getting behind the new guys. Only way we can hope to grow from here on.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"When Tommy came to Wigan (in the wake of the Moran disaster) he wasn't this great NRL star that had come to save us. He was just a half decent young half back from Harlequins, in fact it was Moran who came to us from Quins with a much bigger reputation having performing well the previous season.
I thought Tommy blew very hot & cold under Noble and it was only in his final three years under Maguire & Wane plus cementing himself as a World Cup winning international did he perform consistently well thus elevating himself to be become arguably a world class player.
Will Blake Green be a Tommy or a Dennis Moran? Not sure yet, (the previews look promising) so hopefully the former. But let's not crucify the lad five games in if he's not killing it out on the field straight away.
With Matty Smith, he thrives on the back of a strong pack and has talent without doubt. I do think he's a confidence player though.'"
Simples +1
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| Quote TaxingChimp="TaxingChimp"We're going to lose some big names no doubt, but we need to keep producing and getting behind the new guys. Only way we can hope to grow from here on.'"
But this is still a shrinking economy.
If we produce one generation of good players after another - only to see them go to another competition before we get the full benefit of them, then we never actually gain any ground. Eventually we are literally nothing more than a seedbed for someone else.
The bullish attitude of 'so what if he goes, we can always produce another one!' can be made in a strong, broad-based and wealthy competition like the NRL, but from our lips it is hollow bravado.
For me, British RL is now facing one of the biggest crises in its entire history. Unless some way is found to attract a lot more investment into the British game - and soon! - we are in big, big trouble.
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| Quote For the first time in 15 years, I nearly didn't buy a season ticket. I eventually bought my two then a few hours later even rang up to cancel them, then a day later decided to buy them back again and give it one last year. If it's just as bad or worse next season then i'll just pick and choose my games in future.'"
Thats a fan of the current league champions and you wonder why it doesnt work in London and Manchester!!
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"But this is still a shrinking economy.
If we produce one generation of good players after another - only to see them go to another competition before we get the full benefit of them, then we never actually gain any ground. Eventually we are literally nothing more than a seedbed for someone else.
The bullish attitude of 'so what if he goes, we can always produce another one!' can be made in a strong, broad-based and wealthy competition like the NRL, but from our lips it is hollow bravado.
For me, British RL is now facing one of the biggest crises in its entire history. Unless some way is found to attract a lot more investment into the British game - and soon! - we are in big, big trouble.'"
I agree.
The real issue is that the RFL seemingly think that RL is a finite ring fenced bubble that cannot or will not expand or contract from both a supply and demand perspective.
They seem to think that the attraction of the sport to potential professionals will remain the same, despite artificial salary restraints which will at best limit the duration of stay for the best players and at worst act as a deterrent to them ever taking up the game in the first place.
From a fans perspective they seem to think that RL fans are like sheep and will turn up to watch their team despite the ever dwindling standards on display. This is true to some extent, but you are not going to improve attendances by "dumbing down" the relative standards on display on the park.
From a business perspective, they lack any form of coherent plan. Simply trying the game out in Wales in the hope that it might "stick" is not the answer. The answer is not where to put a team, but to get the basics in place to improve the product so that the team has a chance wherever it is placed in the country (and I firmly believe RL needs to have teams away from it's heartlands if it is to survive as a professional sport).
As for the people who want to ditch Sky...........deary me. Why on earth would you want to ditch the best chance you have of marketing the sport nationwide?
So much for the reason why "This board" is not populated from a "game wide" stance.
As for Wigan, well IL seems to have gone even further in terms of not spending the CC money (as highlighted before). SW seems to have learned nothing from last year. "This year we are more strict"
The thing is the SL competition only really gets important around July/Aug time, and realistically we will have to wait until the CC semi's to see if there has been any improvement.
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