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| If the Stadium loses money, it is because the capacity of 25,000 was to large for both clubs as Whelan had it in his head that if the Latic's were in the Premiership, the crowds would flock to the Stadium in their thousands and there would be full houses at every Latic's game.
Only the games against Liverpool and Manchester United ever attracted large crowds of over 20,000 and that it why it should have named 'Whelans Folly' or 'Whelans White Elephant' Stadium.
Or even 'Wigan Council Bad Mistake' Stadium.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"IF we own the stadium the 1st thing is to bring in an experienced business manager who could use the existing facilities to generate income.
Utilise the lounges, function rooms etc etc 5.6,7 days a week (being optimistic)
Get Rigalettos full every night, its always been busy whenever we have been.
Organise Stadium tours for the schools, get the schools involved, end of term leaving etc.
Get them to put their school christmas shows on in the South Stand bar and Marquee.
Sell, the club to the area.
Put the right people in there and it could work, but throwing money at it just won't, it needs a lot of thought and careful planning.
This is more cost effective than terracing IMO.'"
Definitely don't want anything to do with standing,we get plenty of opportunity when we go away from home to stand,and i think that under the stewardship of IFL the stadium could be a great success
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| Quote JonnyBroad="JonnyBroad"Fans create atmosphere not spending millions filling corners in my opinion. Plenty open corners at Central park but atmosphere was better for sure. Maybe thats because the jjb/dw has never felt like home?'"
I would imagine building the corners to fill in the gaps would be a very expensive operation to undertake
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| Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"If the Stadium loses money, it is because the capacity of 25,000 was to large for both clubs as Whelan had it in his head that if the Latic's were in the Premiership, the crowds would flock to the Stadium in their thousands and there would be full houses at every Latic's game.
Only the games against Liverpool and Manchester United ever attracted large crowds of over 20,000 and that it why it should have named 'Whelans Folly' or 'Whelans White Elephant' Stadium.
Or even 'Wigan Council Bad Mistake' Stadium.'"
There are far more business opportunities in the stadium than the number of seats you know, and the cost to run a match day would be the same if the stadium held 12,000. It's based on number of people that actually go and not the number of empty seats.
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| IFL is an astute operator and if he is successful in buying the ground he will have a business plan that he believes will deliver success.
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One thing I will never agree with Latics fans on is their absolute devotion to Whelan. In reality it's the typical only football matters mentality that I despise about that sport and their fan base.
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One thing I will never agree with Latics fans on is their absolute devotion to Whelan. In reality it's the typical only football matters mentality that I despise about that sport and their fan base.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"One thing I will never agree with Latics fans on is their absolute devotion to Whelan. In reality it's the typical only football matters mentality that I despise about that sport and their fan base.'"
Why would the dislike the guy though?
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| Although some probably don't in the same way some don't like IFL
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"One thing I will never agree with Latics fans on is their absolute devotion to Whelan. In reality it's the typical only football matters mentality that I despise about that sport and their fan base.'"
To be fair, he gifted them something that most football fans who live outside the fantasy cash bubble of the Premier League could only dream of. Before Whelan, nothing in Wigan Athletic's history merited Premier League action or a win at Wembley. They'd never been anything more than a 'make up the numbers' lower league club, playing in a run-down shed of a stadium in front of minuscule crowds, in a town that was totally dominated by rugby league.
Whelan bought them a completely different experience of sporting life.
It was never going to last, but it doesn't surprise me that they weren't the least bit embarrassed when he put up a statue to himself at the front of the DW.
In pointing this out, though, I'm not saying that if Latics disappear, it won't end up being our fault ... much like their failure to secure PL status before Whelan is also now our fault, or so those who claim to have been around in the 1980s insist.
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"Why would the dislike the guy though?'"
Apart from his racist remarks? Or the absolute drivel the WEP used to lap up every week? One week he's saying Bruce is the next England manager and then a month later Bruce is the devil and the reason they are down in the relegation zone.
What about his sporting achievements? Imo the guys done more to divide the town down sporting lines than anyone - all for his (unsustainable) dream of PL footy.
His stewardship of our club was simply a PR stunt to paint himself as 'Mr Wigan'. Compare him to IL and the good he's done for us Vs the nose dive we had under Whelan and it's night and day. We saw deliberate SC breaches, a criminal lack of youth brought through, a relegation scrap and the club's reputation in tatters. Maybe that's why the Latics fans are so scared of IL as they've seen first hand what happens when you're placed number two in your owners affections
I'm also a Union fan and know many good people at Orrell who watched years of hard work go down the drain once Whelan had has his fill. Granted they took his coin, but like many others (including our own shareholders) they were sold a pipedream.
He's lauded for building a knock-off stadium on a known marsh land that needs the pitch digging up and replacing every 12 months. I suppose that doesn't matter to the football fans tho as it doesn't impact their season...
To top it all off he names the stadium after himself and sticks a statue out front.
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| But why would latics fans hate him?
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"But why would latics fans hate him?'"
They wouldn't, but I never said they would. I said one thing I'll never agree with them on is their devotion to the guy.
They are in the (partly down to him and his lofty ambitions), but they still fawn after him.
You'd hope the reasoned fans would also see the damage he's done to the town, but like I said all they care about is football.
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| What damage has he done to the town? He's built a stadium, owned multiple businesses and employed multiple local people (myself included) and still does I think
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I do find this 'holier than thou' attitude of some Latics fans amusing, slating Lenegan as a vulture for having the audacity to bid for the stadium at a knock down price during their hour of need.
They bought Euxton training ground from Bolton Wanderers for £2.5m a few years ago when Bolton were suffering a large unpaid tax bill.
Back in 2012 Bolton were looking to sell the ground for what they believed to be worth at £75m
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... -wanderers
Quote Coming from the BWFC Forums is a claim that Bolton Wanderers are close to selling their Euxton training ground for the (reportedly) hefty fee of £75 million.
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I do find this 'holier than thou' attitude of some Latics fans amusing, slating Lenegan as a vulture for having the audacity to bid for the stadium at a knock down price during their hour of need.
They bought Euxton training ground from Bolton Wanderers for £2.5m a few years ago when Bolton were suffering a large unpaid tax bill.
Back in 2012 Bolton were looking to sell the ground for what they believed to be worth at £75m
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... -wanderers
Quote Coming from the BWFC Forums is a claim that Bolton Wanderers are close to selling their Euxton training ground for the (reportedly) hefty fee of £75 million.
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Quote MattyB="MattyB"I do find this 'holier than thou' attitude of some Latics fans amusing, slating Lenegan as a vulture for having the audacity to bid for the stadium at a knock down price during their hour of need.
They bought Euxton training ground from Bolton Wanderers for £2.5m a few years ago when Bolton were suffering a large unpaid tax bill.
Back in 2012 Bolton were looking to sell the ground for what they believed to be worth at £75m
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... -wanderers
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It's business. You wouldn't go in a closing down sale and say "Ignore the £20 tag, i'll give you the full £100 they cost last week" would you?
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Quote MattyB="MattyB"I do find this 'holier than thou' attitude of some Latics fans amusing, slating Lenegan as a vulture for having the audacity to bid for the stadium at a knock down price during their hour of need.
They bought Euxton training ground from Bolton Wanderers for £2.5m a few years ago when Bolton were suffering a large unpaid tax bill.
Back in 2012 Bolton were looking to sell the ground for what they believed to be worth at £75m
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... -wanderers
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It's business. You wouldn't go in a closing down sale and say "Ignore the £20 tag, i'll give you the full £100 they cost last week" would you?
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"It's business. You wouldn't go in a closing down sale and say "Ignore the £20 tag, i'll give you the full £100 they cost last week" would you?'"
Fully agree. Just been on twitter and someone was whinging that Euxton has been sold for reportedly 'less than a million'. He replied with "but we paid £2.2m for it".
Won't be happy when he finds out IL has only shelled out a fraction of what the DW was worth (£30m when new). Assuming the rumours of course.
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| Someone from here is masquerading with my username on the Latics forum. Go on own up, who is it 
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"It's business. You wouldn't go in a closing down sale and say "Ignore the £20 tag, i'll give you the full £100 they cost last week" would you?'"
They don't seem to be able to grasp that they've lost any negotiating power and that's why all their assets are being flogged for pennies in the pound. They're deluded.
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| Quote Suzy Banyon="Suzy Banyon"They don't seem to be able to grasp that they've lost any negotiating power and that's why all their assets are being flogged for pennies in the pound. They're deluded.'"
They seem to think the administrators are there to save the club so are throwing crazy, libellous, things around.
Since many simply haven't learned the basics of what the administrators role is, I fear they will be quick to anger if their club disappears because nobody wants to sink yet more money into what is almost certainly a black hole.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"Apart from his racist remarks? Or the absolute drivel the WEP used to lap up every week? One week he's saying Bruce is the next England manager and then a month later Bruce is the devil and the reason they are down in the relegation zone.
What about his sporting achievements? Imo the guys done more to divide the town down sporting lines than anyone - all for his (unsustainable) dream of PL footy.
His stewardship of our club was simply a PR stunt to paint himself as 'Mr Wigan'. Compare him to IL and the good he's done for us Vs the nose dive we had under Whelan and it's night and day. We saw deliberate SC breaches, a criminal lack of youth brought through, a relegation scrap and the club's reputation in tatters. Maybe that's why the Latics fans are so scared of IL as they've seen first hand what happens when you're placed number two in your owners affections
I'm also a Union fan and know many good people at Orrell who watched years of hard work go down the drain once Whelan had has his fill. Granted they took his coin, but like many others (including our own shareholders) they were sold a pipedream.
He's lauded for building a knock-off stadium on a known marsh land that needs the pitch digging up and replacing every 12 months. I suppose that doesn't matter to the football fans tho as it doesn't impact their season...
To top it all off he names the stadium after himself and sticks a statue out front.'"
Sir, if you can tell me your local I’ll have a pint waiting for you at the bar.
One of the most spot on posts I’ve seen on here, for years.
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[url:ixkuqqsmhttps://wiganathletic.com/news/2020/august/Statement-From-The-Joint-Administrators-24-08-20-/[/url:ixkuqqsm
THE JOINT ADMINISTRATORS WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SUPPORTERS WITH THE FOLLOWING UPDATE.
The Joint Administrators are calling a press conference on Thursday 27 August in the morning at a time to be agreed. This will be followed by a Zoom conference for those who cannot attend.
The Supporters Club will be invited to the conference and in the light of all the social media comments on Sunday we are quite happy for 10 members of the supporters club to attend and we will give them a special session to deal with their questions and answer them as far as we can. We stress that they must be members of the Supporters Club and sign in as usual when they get to the ground.
On 1 July 2020, Paul Stanley, Gerald Krasner and Dean Watson of Begbies Traynor were appointed joint administrators. All communications should be c/o Begbies Traynor. Please contact the joint administrators either by phone on 0333 009 6869 or by email at
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They bought Euxton training ground from Bolton Wanderers for £2.5m a few years ago when Bolton were suffering a large unpaid tax bill.
Back in 2012 Bolton were looking to sell the ground for what they believed to be worth at £75m
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... -wanderers
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The holier than thou act is laughable. When Bolton were in the financial proverbial creek without a paddle, they couldn’t get enough of it. Lapping it up, rubbing it in. And now it’s happened to them they get all offended when a Bolton fan gives it them back.
Dont give it if you can’t take it.
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They bought Euxton training ground from Bolton Wanderers for £2.5m a few years ago when Bolton were suffering a large unpaid tax bill.
Back in 2012 Bolton were looking to sell the ground for what they believed to be worth at £75m
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... -wanderers
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The holier than thou act is laughable. When Bolton were in the financial proverbial creek without a paddle, they couldn’t get enough of it. Lapping it up, rubbing it in. And now it’s happened to them they get all offended when a Bolton fan gives it them back.
Dont give it if you can’t take it.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"The holier than thou act is laughable. When Bolton were in the financial proverbial creek without a paddle, they couldn’t get enough of it. Lapping it up, rubbing it in. And now it’s happened to them they get all offended when a Bolton fan gives it them back.
Dont give it if you can’t take it.'"
It's what we did with Saints when they were struggling and they did to us witj Central Park. It's rivalry.
Latics fans quite rightly feel angry at how this has come about. It sounds dodgy as.
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