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| Quote flyingkelvin="flyingkelvin"IF that happened time after time, you would have a point.'"
According to jjb10 it does.
There are problems at Wigan and Nobles got a big job on. All im saying is personally i think Riddell is a class player with a good rugby brain.
He's no Barrett but we need to get together as a team and get back to basics.
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| Quote fazwigan4eva="fazwigan4eva"Long term injuries is that?
I'm afraid so.
And Im party talking next year, Coley's contract shouldnt be renewed.
I agree
And whats Ben Davies like? He's a prop isnt he?
Ben is a good young prop, but I don't tyhink he'll be ready for first team for at least two to three years.
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| Quote Connor The Warrior="Connor The Warrior"According to jjb10 it does.
There are problems at Wigan and Nobles got a big job on. All im saying is personally i think Riddell is a class player with a good rugby brain.
He's no Barrett but we need to get together as a team and get back to basics.'" You're welcome to your point of view matey, we all are, its part of the fun of being a fan. For me, Piggy isn't a solution to our on field problems, hes part of them.
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| Quote flyingkelvin="flyingkelvin"You're welcome to your point of view matey, we all are, its part of the fun of being a fan. For me, Piggy isn't a solution to our on field problems, hes part of them.'"
Agreed.
New Noble thread please.
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| Must admit to being disappointed with Riddell thus far.
I thought his passing game would be much better than Higham's, and he'd get the forwards running onto flat passes so that we'd be over the gain line almost immediately.
As it is, Riddell is taking an age to get the pass away, he's passing it 3 metres backwards, the forwards are taking it standing still and the defenders are on them almost immediately and we're making no yards at all.
Very poor indeed from the whole team.
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| I thought Riddell did ok yesterday but I would like to see more attacking runs and creative play from him.
I still think it will take him a good few weeks to get used to Super League as it seems to me that he's still testing the water at the moment.
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| Quote Panda Antics="Panda Antics"Must admit to being disappointed with Riddell thus far.
I thought his passing game would be much better than Higham's, and he'd get the forwards running onto flat passes so that we'd be over the gain line almost immediately.
As it is, Riddell is taking an age to get the pass away, he's passing it 3 metres backwards, the forwards are taking it standing still and the defenders are on them almost immediately and we're making no yards at all.
Very poor indeed from the whole team.'"
That isn't entirely Riddell's fault
The forwards should be running onto the ball as soon as Piggy arches his back to pick the ball up
On the bright side it is nothing an hour on the training pitch won't solve
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| Quote kirkamania6="kirkamania6"That isn't entirely Riddell's fault
The forwards should be running onto the ball as soon as Piggy arches his back to pick the ball up
On the bright side it is nothing an hour on the training pitch won't solve'"
Yeh I agree with that.
It can be solved easily but under Noble you have to wonder.
This should never have been an issue, it's basic rugby.
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| Quote Alex BP'="Alex BP'"I still think it will take him a good few weeks to get used to Super League as it seems to me that he's still testing the water at the moment.'"
Agreed. Seemed to take a few more runs from dummy half yesterday too.
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| Quote Panda Antics="Panda Antics"Yeh I agree with that.
It can be solved easily but under Noble you have to wonder.
This should never have been an issue, it's basic rugby.'"
Your not wrong there
However I'd be more worried if we were saying this around September/October time
I am not Noble's biggest fan but I have confidence in him to get the players doing the basic's right
KEEP THE FAITH! 
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I thought Riddell was good last night. His passing was good, he ran the ball at the right times, tackled well and gave away no stupid penalties.'"
I now understand why you and I disagree so much.
It's because we are watching different games.
Riddell put 3 passes to ground, innumerable passes to head, and looks slower than a tax rebate.
And to all these people claiming that Riddell only looks bad because the other players around him aren't reading his plays, have you ever played the game?
Jeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| we have the london game on tv now .9 
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| Quote Connor The Warrior="Connor The Warrior"Both these lads would give 100% more than Coley.
Put Wigan back into Wigan.'"
well said m8 ,,, coley makes all of 3 yards pick prescot over him any day
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| Quote Jack Kerley="Jack Kerley"I now understand why you and I disagree so much.
It's because we are watching different games.
Riddell put 3 passes to ground, innumerable passes to head, and looks slower than a tax rebate.
And to all these people claiming that Riddell only looks bad because the other players around him aren't reading his plays, have you ever played the game?
Jeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
lol  your not wrong
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| Quote shooter69="shooter69"lol
your not wrong'"
He is.
Jack have you watched the game again yet?
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| To me Riddell looks like he's put weight on since he got here.
I accept Piggy is never going to be svelte but surely he can be made to lose a few pounds?
I've lost all faith in our fitness and backoom set up. Why can't they put him on the same kind of weight loss regime that Inga was put on when he arrived?
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| Doesnt look anywhere near fit and has been very disapointing to say the least.
He can only get better but he needs to improve his fitness and fast!
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| Riddell needs time, so many players come to this country and take time to settle in, Richards was garbage in his first season, some people said get rid, glad we didnt now.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I thought Riddell was good last night. His passing was good, he ran the ball at the right times, tackled well and gave away no stupid penalties.'"
I agree, a much improved performance last night, still a lot to come from the big lad but thought did well. A nice controlled performance.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"He is.
Jack have you watched the game again yet?'"
Yes, and what I posted above was correct.
He offers nothing.
He is slow, his passing accuracy is terrible, and if he is fit then I don't want to be.
It was his best performance of the season so far, but that is saying very little.
So far, a huge mistake of a signing.
PS, All these youngsters that aren't quite ready? that's two that have been tried, and both have put in the performances of the season so far.
The foreigners are still not showing up.
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| He even pulled something when taking a kick at goal against Cas. 
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| Quote Jack Kerley="Jack Kerley"I now understand why you and I disagree so much.
It's because we are watching different games.
Riddell put 3 passes to ground, innumerable passes to head, and looks slower than a tax rebate.
And to all these people claiming that Riddell only looks bad because the other players around him aren't reading his plays, have you ever played the game?
Jeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
Good post 
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| Quote Jack Kerley="Jack Kerley"Yes, and what I posted above was correct.
He offers nothing.
He is slow, his passing accuracy is terrible, and if he is fit then I don't want to be.
It was his best performance of the season so far, but that is saying very little.
So far, a huge mistake of a signing.
PS, All these youngsters that aren't quite ready? that's two that have been tried, and both have put in the performances of the season so far.
The foreigners are still not showing up.'"
Bailey - played well, no stupid defensive blunders and scored a try  that Goulding should have done v Hull
Tommy - played well
Pat - played well at fullback one mistake
Carmont - superb timing of the pass for Ainscoughs 1st try
Roberts - defensively sound, read the interception well.
Riddell - I was quite happy with his performance
Feka - Did what he does well (look at the other thread)
Smith - Had a distinctly average game
Ainscough - scored two good tries, but missed a couple of tackles that could have cost us and dropped a catchable bomb, that put Quins in very good position.
Tomkins - Superb, a kid I've always rated. Look back over my posts over the last three years.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Bailey - played well, no stupid defensive blunders and scored a try
that Goulding should have done v Hull
Tommy - played well
Pat - played well at fullback one mistake
Carmont - superb timing of the pass for Ainscoughs 1st try
Roberts - defensively sound, read the interception well.
Riddell - I was quite happy with his performance
Feka - Did what he does well (look at the other thread)
Smith - Had a distinctly average game
Ainscough - scored two good tries, but missed a couple of tackles that could have cost us and dropped a catchable bomb, that put Quins in very good position.
Tomkins - Superb, a kid I've always rated. Look back over my posts over the last three years.'"
Bailey was all over the place in defence. The right side got murdered yet again and if that had been Goulding in the centre there would have been a thread on here slagging him off and demanding he be dropped. Somehow though Bailey can do no wrong with some, no matter how he plays.
Carmont was all at sea for both tries down the left. Again no criticism from those on here that think he can do no wrong even though he hasnt done much in the 4 games to date.
Smith was absolutely awful yet again and was so bad in defence that Noble didnt dare put him back on. There is no way that he deserves to be in the squad for next week. McIlorum should be back in.
The rest I sort of agree with.
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| Quote Simmy="Simmy"Bailey was all over the place in defence. The right side got murdered yet again and if that had been Goulding in the centre there would have been a thread on here slagging him off and demanding he be dropped. Somehow though Bailey can do no wrong with some, no matter how he plays.
Carmont was all at sea for both tries down the left. Again no criticism from those on here that think he can do no wrong even though he hasnt done much in the 4 games to date.
Smith was absolutely awful yet again and was so bad in defence that Noble didnt dare put him back on. There is no way that he deserves to be in the squad for next week. McIlorum should be back in.
The rest I sort of agree with.'"
Do you think Goulding would have scored that try?
If you drop Carmont who would play there?
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