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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"Who exactly was "forcing" him?'"
A bloody good question!
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| Quote The Jolly Ginger Giant="The Jolly Ginger Giant"I can't believe some people can't give credit when it's due. Most young players only get there chance through injury or suspension to other players, it's what they do with that chance what matters. Fortunatelybthey took their chances and as bobby said he would he has picked players on form and not reputation.'"
Well said pal. Cant fault the team or Nobby after tonight he has done as promised, even the style of rugby which was the main thing in most people minds.
Tonight was the first time for years where we have been properly entertained with the style of rugby for 80mins.
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| Quote odemwingie="odemwingie"eusa_clap.gif
Well said pal. Cant fault the team or Nobby after tonight he has done as promised, even the style of rugby which was the main thing in most people minds.
Tonight was the first time for years where we have been properly entertained with the style of rugby for 80mins.'"
Good point and that's why some are unhappy with noble. Now can we carry it on ? I hope so..Leeds will be interesting.
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| Quote AJ="AJ"A bloody good question!'"
The performances of the team and individual players. Quite clearly.
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| Quote Red Hot Jalapeno="Red Hot Jalapeno"Dont bother mate, these guys are too proud to admit being wrong despite Noble tonight basically sticking 2 fingers up at them. Fair play to Jonh he has sort of and i mean sort of admitted he was wrong by giving Noble credit for tonight expansive gameplan.
Thats all that i will say on the matter as im off out now glad in the knowledge that Noble has proven his doubters wrong and inside they know that all too well hence the need to cling onto the consistancy issue which seems to suddenly become something you can coach into a team
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Proof if ever you are clutching at straws given the fact we played expansive rugby at times last season and this.
If you are happy fair play, i am not. If you are unable to criticise errors it seems to me you are too quick to praise.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Proof if ever you are clutching at straws given the fact we played expansive rugby at times last season and this.
If you are happy fair play, i am not. If you are unable to criticise errors it seems to me you are too quick to praise.
I love the way the consistency "issue" is brushed under the carpet by the way!
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I don't know why your bothering mate. Don’t you know Noble has proven tonight after one win he's the greatest coach there is in the world today and in fact he's the greatest coach that has ever lived. Don't let things like the Cas/Wakey games or terrible inconsistent performances over the past two seasons get in the way of the blind love for old rubber lips.
Can we also add the fact that Ainscough was our FIFTH choice winger at the start of the season to the list of things that are being brushed under the carpet. We’ve been lucky that Noble had his hand FORCED, yes FORCED, with this one as it’s very unlikely we would have seen him at any point this season if noble’s other four picks before him hadn’t been injured/unfit.
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"I don't know why your bothering mate. Don’t you know Noble has proven tonight after one win he's the greatest coach there is in the world today and in fact he's the greatest coach that has ever lived. Don't let things like the Cas/Wakey games or terrible inconsistent performances over the past two seasons get in the way of the blind love for old rubber lips.
Can we also add the fact that Ainscough was our FIFTH choice winger at the start of the season to the list of things that are being brushed under the carpet. We’ve been lucky that Noble had his hand FORCED, yes FORCED, with this one as it’s very unlikely we would have seen him at any point this season if noble’s other four picks before him hadn’t been injured/unfit.'"
Again does it matter that he was fifth pick winger? Does it balls he got his chance through injury or suspension like most young players get their fhance and took it. Nobby has kept him in the team on merit like he said he would with players and you still find fault, just give it a rest and bask in the glory of a good win instead of trying to find fault with nobby at any opportunity
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| Quote The Jolly Ginger Giant="The Jolly Ginger Giant"Again does it matter that he was fifth pick winger? Does it balls he got his chance through injury or suspension like most young players get their fhance and took it. Nobby has kept him in the team on merit like he said he would with players and you still find fault, just give it a rest and bask in the glory of a good win instead of trying to find fault with nobby at any opportunity'"
Think the nature of this thread negates the initial posters thoughts on doing this.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Proof if ever you are clutching at straws given the fact we played expansive rugby at times last season and this. '"
You have banged on for years that Noble cant coach expansive rugby yet now your saying we played it last year. Wasnt Noble the coach then?
Quote jonh="jonh" If you are happy fair play, i am not. '"
LOL, i wouldnt expect you are a happy chap! After all youve spent many hours of your life trying to convince everybody Noble has no idea how to coach, you could do a better job and all his past achievements at Bradford where down to luck!
Quote jonh="jonh" If you are unable to criticise errors it seems to me you are too quick to praise. '"
I can criticise errors infact thats what this post is all about,the errors that you have made regarding Nobles coaching ability.
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How the hell is consistancy the job of the coach? Consistancy mainly lies on the shoulders of the players not the coach unless you are going to give us a special jonh in depth analysis of how you coach consistancy?
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"I don't know why your bothering mate. Don’t you know Noble has proven tonight after one win he's the greatest coach there is in the world today and in fact he's the greatest coach that has ever lived. Don't let things like the Cas/Wakey games or terrible inconsistent performances over the past two seasons get in the way of the blind love for old rubber lips.
Can we also add the fact that Ainscough was our FIFTH choice winger at the start of the season to the list of things that are being brushed under the carpet. We’ve been lucky that Noble had his hand FORCED, yes FORCED, with this one as it’s very unlikely we would have seen him at any point this season if noble’s other four picks before him hadn’t been injured/unfit.'"
Complete and utter .
So what Ainscough was 5th choice winger? He got his chance through injuries correct, but don't all young players? Or is this just another piece of garbage to beat Noble with?
He took his chance, and he proved himself, that is why he's still in the team. Same for Sam Tomkins.
Before you say they'll both be dropped next week, if that were the case Tomkins would of been dropped for Smith tonight and Ainscough for Pryce.
Your chatting utter shiite. Instead of being happy with a fantastic win, your hell-bent on ridiculing Noble. Get a f*cking grip.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"Complete and utter rubbish.
So what Ainscough was 5th choice winger? He got his chance through injuries correct, but don't all young players? Or is this just another piece of garbage to beat Noble with?
He took his chance, and he proved himself, that is why he's still in the team. Same for Sam Tomkins.
Before you say they'll both be dropped next week, if that were the case Tomkins would of been dropped for Smith tonight and Ainscough for Pryce.
Your chatting utter shiite. Instead of being happy with a fantastic win, your hell-bent on ridiculing Noble. Get a f*cking grip.'"
Well done you've absolutely managed to miss the point in more than one way.
Before going off on one and taking my post completely out of context look at the previous posts. Brett Kenny asked 'how Noble was forced to pick anyone?' apparently it was all Nobles choice to pick and use these young lads according to him and nobody forced him to do anything. Which was totally wrong as Noble was FORCED to pick Ainscough as he had no other options. I’m not saying he hasn’t done well to keep him in the squad but to claim Ainscough was in the team due to anything other than luck is plain stupid. If Noble was as good as half the people say he is he would have put Ainscough over Phelps for the pre season and Wakefield games.
Secondly I am happy with the win last night and I’ve made plenty of other positive comments on the threads about the teams performances. This thread just beggars belief and show’s how easily pleased some fans are and I can’t see anyone being positive in it. All is forgotten in regards to the three bad previous performances and a scrappy win. We’ve done Fook all yet.
All I am saying is Noble will have answered a lot of the doubts and criticisms about his coaching abilities when we perform like we did last night over a good period of time and against the lesser teams. BTW consistency is down to coach as much as the players he has to make sure the team is ready for the match and has a plan B when things go wrong. We showed we can play attacking rugby tonight so hopefully it will continue and kick on from here.
Can’t wait to see some one not actually read my post now and go off on one.
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| In todays papers Noble mentions how the players respected possession last night and how they stuck to the game plan.
Maybe the problem in the first three games were down to the players not doing as they were asked to do.
As for Noble loosing the dressing room, well after last nights team effort can anyone honestly say there is any truth in that whatsoever?
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| How else do young players get a chance apart from injury / loss of form. To level at Noble he was "forced" it utterly stupid.
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"Well done you've absolutely managed to miss the point in more than one way.
Before going off on one and taking my post completely out of context look at the previous posts. Brett Kenny asked 'how Noble was forced to pick anyone?' apparently it was all Nobles choice to pick and use these young lads according to him and nobody forced him to do anything. Which was totally wrong as Noble was FORCED to pick Ainscough as he had no other options. I’m not saying he hasn’t done well to keep him in the squad but to claim Ainscough was in the team due to anything other than luck is plain stupid. If Noble was as good as half the people say he is he would have put Ainscough over Phelps for the pre season and Wakefield games.
Secondly I am happy with the win last night and I’ve made plenty of other positive comments on the threads about the teams performances. This thread just beggars belief and show’s how easily pleased some fans are and I can’t see anyone being positive in it. All is forgotten in regards to the three bad previous performances and a scrappy win. We’ve done Fook all yet.
All I am saying is Noble will have answered a lot of the doubts and criticisms about his coaching abilities when we perform like we did last night over a good period of time and against the lesser teams. BTW consistency is down to coach as much as the players he has to make sure the team is ready for the match and has a plan B when things go wrong. We showed we can play attacking rugby tonight so hopefully it will continue and kick on from here.
Can’t wait to see some one not actually read my post now and go off on one.'"
I didn't miss your point at all, you stated Noble was FORCED to keep him in the team and then you strongly imply he is FORCED to keep him in the team.
Ainscough got his chance due to injuries, no doubt whatsoever, as did Sam. Noble is I agree, FORCED to keep them in the team because they are playing fantastic. On the same token he is forced to keep Smith, Mathers etc out of the team because they are playing awfully. You interpreted it differently to me.
I can't quite believe this argument is still raging on, it's over-run it's course now.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"I didn't miss your point at all, you stated Noble was FORCED to keep him in the team and then you strongly imply he is FORCED to keep him in the team.
Ainscough got his chance due to injuries, no doubt whatsoever, as did Sam. Noble is I agree, FORCED to keep them in the team because they are playing fantastic. On the same token he is forced to keep Smith, Mathers etc out of the team because they are playing awfully. You interpreted it differently to me.
I can't quite believe this argument is still raging on, it's over-run it's course now.'"
You are Fred from Coronation Street and I claim my £5, I say you are Fred from Coronation Street and I claim my £5! 
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| Last night was flawless; certainly on Noble's part.
We clearly had a game plan and it was executed to almost perfection. We could have easily go 50.
The start to this season has been awful, however, if we build on last night's performance and maintain those attacking intentions, I and the rest of the Noble doubters no doubt will shut up.
However, just as four bad games don't make a season, one good game doesn't either. A long way to go yet, and as Noble said himself, there'll be ups and downs to come.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Proof if ever you are clutching at straws given the fact we played expansive rugby at times last season and this.
If you are happy fair play, i am not. If you are unable to criticise errors it seems to me you are too quick to praise.
I love the way the consistency "issue" is brushed under the carpet by the way!
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Me to I thought it was the coaches job to get the team to perform consistantly..(playing well hopefully)...from this thread it seems some would have you believe if we play well it's down to noble..if we play badly it's down to the players  ...
On that theory Noble should have a job for life..let's just keep swapping players 
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"I didn't miss your point at all, you stated Noble was FORCED to keep him in the team and then you strongly imply he is FORCED to keep him in the team.
Ainscough got his chance due to injuries, no doubt whatsoever, as did Sam. Noble is I agree, FORCED to keep them in the team because they are playing fantastic. On the same token he is forced to keep Smith, Mathers etc out of the team because they are playing awfully. You interpreted it differently to me.
I can't quite believe this argument is still raging on, it's over-run it's course now.'"
I can most defiantly agree with this one! Lets just agree to disagree yes?
For the record I hope Friday’s excellent win/performance is the sign that we have turned the corner and can now kick on to bigger and better things and string a good set of W’s together and start to climb the table.
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| Quote diesel="diesel"Me to I thought it was the coaches job to get the team to perform consistantly..(playing well hopefully)...from this thread it seems some would have you believe if we play well it's down to noble..if we play badly it's down to the players
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On that theory Noble should have a job for life..let's just keep swapping players
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This is the key point, i have criticised Noble but am delighted to praise him for the performance on the weekend.
Others will blame everyone apart from Noble, but then heap all the praise on him when we do play well, there is no consistency in there argument, line of thought.
The best i have heard on here is that we lost the semi final against Les Cats because of the sallary cap, and how is a coach meant to coach consistency!?!
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"I can most defiantly agree with this one! Lets just agree to disagree yes?
For the record I hope Friday’s excellent win/performance is the sign that we have turned the corner and can now kick on to bigger and better things and string a good set of W’s together and start to climb the table.'"
Andy Wilson in the the Guardian said yesterday that he thought we were about to 'go on a run'.
Morale-boosting praise indeed from a man who has been bafflingly eager to rubbish Wigan in recent times.
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| Quote Red Hot Jalapeno="Red Hot Jalapeno"Noble doesnt need to prove his career. He already has at Bradford by winning the lot. Tonight he blew the theory that 'he can only coach boring rugby' out of the water. At the same time he blew the theory that 'he will not give youth a chance' out of the water.
Go on admit it you were wrong,it wont hurt!'"
Why didn't he pick this team against Wakefield?
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| I find it absolutly laughable that after one performance Noble is the new found GOD...
Admittingly we played well on Friday, but to now turn round and say Johnh and DaveO view on noble is utterly wrong and are castigated for holding such opinions, well I am sorry but I can count on one hand the ammount of times in 3 years at the JJB were I have walked out of the ground and gone "That was a brilliant performance" I am sorry but "one off" performances are just that until they are backed up with consistent showings..
So who's fault is it if the team plays well one week and utter dross the next? Is it the players who haven't got their mind on the job or is it the atmosphere and conditions with which the team works that isnt beneficial for them to perform on a regularly consistent basis.
Wigan have the best training facilities, great back room staff etc.. all that is needed for the team to perform.. yet they are/were still inconsistent at best, we have scrapped into the play-off and managed to go on a good run and finish one game short of the Grand final which has papered over alot of the cracks.
I would like to think that now the new players are settling down I hope performances like Friday are the norm instead of "one offs" and credit must go to noble for forming a team that is able to perform well regularly, but if this is just a "one off" then noble is rightly open for criticism.
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| Quote diesel="diesel"Me to I thought it was the coaches job to get the team to perform consistantly..(playing well hopefully)...from this thread it seems some would have you believe if we play well it's down to noble..if we play badly it's down to the players
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On that theory Noble should have a job for life..let's just keep swapping players
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Are you always this numb?
The point of this thread (as ive stated loads of times but you ignore) is Jonh and others have gone on like a broken record that Noble cannot coach anything but 5 drives and a kick-a theory well and truely blown out of the water by Fridays superb attacking performance. I can only assume you think the way the team played on Friday had nothing to do with Noble.
The thread was nothing to do with who's fault it was or wasnt that we have lost 3 games.
As for your keep swapping players comment well i can only assume you want to keep swapping coaches? Oh hang on weve already tried that and i imagine you was one of the people who blasted Lindsay for sacking coaches!!
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| Only time will tell whether Saturday was the start of a brand new era of flowing rugby or another false dawn.
In truth there have been one off performances like this that have punctuated Nobles reign at the club and we have soon slipped back to normal. i.e Hull at home last year when we scored 60 and then got hammered by Leeds who scored 50+ a week or two later.
In my opinion people who said that we should not knee jerk over the first 3 games should also not do the same over one performance against a side who played as badly as I have ever seen them.
Another factor is that Bradford appear to be a club that Nobby finds it easier to coach against as with Leeds, the real acid test will be when we play teams who ask questions of the defence eg. Saints.
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