If Blake Green could kick goals it wouldn't be any sort of question. I don't think I've seen a Wigan halfback as limited as Smith currently is. He looks crippled by a lack of confidence at the moment and you feel it's time for him to be given a break from the side.



If we could get a goalkicking winger I'd be all over Green like a rash.

Who is our third-choice kicker after Josh? Powell? Can't Sam kick them? At the Warriors Shaun Johnson kicked the goals but Sam always took the restarts.



At the end of the day, I'd rather have a good competent half and a 'make-do' kicker than the other way round.



I agree about the confidence thing. As I've said before, Smith was never great, but he often used to be good. Now it looks like a parting of the ways would be the best thing for club and player.

I think Powell is third choice at the moment but he's unlikely to be playing many minutes when McIlorum is back and obviously Charnley is leaving. Unless Sam Tomkins has made incredible strides he's nowhere near good enough because he was abysmal before he left.



I agree that I'd take a good half who can't kick over a poor one who can kick a bit but we can't get ourselves in to a situation where Sam Tomkins is our only starting option.

Well then surely Charnley will do for this season. Next season hopefully we'll have some new blood on the roster anyway.



If Blake Green goes back to HKR, after Richards ending up at Perpignan, that will seem like another kick in the teeth.

I'd give it to Charnley (fitness permitting) for this year with Smith taking a break from both the kicking duties and the team.



Longer term though we need to come up with something. I'd love us to sign a halfback from down unde who can kick goals but sadly that market seems to be totally ignored by the club nowadays.

If Blake Green is available and is looking to come back to Super League, we have to sign him. He's a fantastic, vocal organiser and it's really shown how much he did when you look at the performances of Smith since his departure

We need a signing or two to get the fans back in the stadium. On match days the South Stand seems barely three quarters full.

Whilst the attendances given out state 11k or 12k some of those have been nowhere near, more likely the club have counted non attending season ticket holders.



It's been really poor!

I've had my worries for a while that Lenagans interest seems to be dying a death. When he first took the club over there was a good few years where we promoted games big time and he spoke about wanting to get our average attendances up to 20,000 by tapping in to Liverpool, Manchester etc. That was always a pipe dream but nowadays we just seen content to see who bothers turning up. Lenagan was very good at communicating with the fans via fans forums and even at the games and at times on here but again that looks to be fading. He spoke about things such as a fans supporters bar and a museum but again nothing ever materialised.



On the playing side he took opportunities to really improve the club. He took on Maguire and let him set up a great coaching staff. He took the opportunity to sign three Melbourne players when it arose and that got everyone excited. Nowadays we just make do with coaches/conditioners from within the club and don't look for fresh ideas, we just sign ex players and players who are out of contract at lower superleague clubs and unlike other clubs we don't replace guys who get long term injuries as the salary cap only really seems to apply to us and one or two other clubs.



The academy side is also a worry. The side is getting beat on a regular basis after dominating for a number of years and whilst that was always going to happen the big worry is our reliance on that academy to fill gaps in the first team when we continue to let players leave. There's talk that Crosby may follow Charnley and Sarginson out of the door at the end of the year. That's three good superleague players (when they can be bothered) and who will replace them? I'd guess probably Tierney, Higginson, Bretherton, Wells etc. All are good lads but the first one is no more then a squad player and the last three are kids and nowhere near ready.



We've had a good run since 2010 in general but in truth we shouid have won far more with the players we've had and produced but far too many have walked through the door.



We're getting towards a bit of a crossroads IMO.

While I too am a tad worried, and I agree with you that problems do seem to be mounting, I'm less worried about the departures of Sarginson, Charnley and Crosby. I suppose it ultimately will depend on who we get to replace them. If whoever it is isn't a big improvement, then I'll really be concerned, because lets face it, that shouldn't be hard.

The longer the season goes on, the more I think Burgess may return to us next year.



All you need to do is read the NRL section on reddit and after every game he plays Burgess is getting absolutely slated. He is being called rotten and nobody seems to rate him down there. I understand that it's the coaches opinion that matters, not the fans. But he doesn't seem to be making a good name for himself so far with the fans with a number of errors, including knock ons from bombs (which weirdly he never seemed to do here).

Difficult first season for Joe. However he is a quality player, if he sticks with it he'll prove the doubts wrong and emerge a better player from playing in the best league in the world.



He wouldn't be the first player to be called rotten in his first season to go on to be a success.

I think Burgess is showing enough for the coaches to want to retain him in the NRL. He did have a stinker under the high ball out, but he also pulled off 2 freakish try saving tackles and picked up good yards.



I have a feeling SKD will be moved on next year with the Roosters needing to free up cap space to resign SBW and the plan has always been for Joe to play reserve grade this year, covering for injuries before having a real crack at it in 2017.