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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"How dare you! That's slander! There's nothing wrong... with Damo
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Would you buy him/her a pint then ?
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| Quote wiganrlforever="wiganrlforever"Would you buy him/her a pint then ?'"
Can you buy Domestos in pints?
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| Any ignorant fools on here voted BNP?
Cos its people like you that let Hitler steal power in Germany
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| Quote nikos="nikos"Any ignorant fools on here voted BNP?
Cos its people like you that let Hitler steal power in Germany'"
Surely you'd be better off having a go at the people who couldn't be bothered to get off their backsides to go to vote.
The BNP would have got a lot smaller share of the vote if people had made the small effort to actually go and exercise the democracy we fortunately have.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Surely you'd be better off having a go at the people who couldn't be bothered to get off their backsides to go to vote.
The BNP would have got a lot smaller share of the vote if people had made the small effort to actually go and exercise the democracy we fortunately have.'"
if id put
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Cos its people like you that let Hitler steal power in Germany"
people would think I was barmy 
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"How dare you! That's slander! There's nothing wrong... with Damo
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| Quote nikos="nikos"if id put
"Any ignorant fools on here not vote?
Cos its people like you that let Hitler steal power in Germany"
people would think I was barmy
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| Quote king warrior="king warrior"Yeah i didn't vote cause i couldn't be d
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Here's one of them Nikos, fire away 
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| why vote if there is no-one worth voting for?
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| Quote [Gareth="[Gareth"why vote if there is no-one worth voting for?'"
I'm guessing you didn't read the manifestos of any of the parties.
I'd also say that most people didn't know what policies the parties were standing on.
I'd be even more confident in saying that most people only consider there to be three parties when it comes to elections.
If people did a bit of research I'm sure they'd find a party that represented their own personal views. It's pure laziness and apathy to say 'All politicians are bent, therefore I'm bnot going to vote.'
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| The BNP winning a seat isnt a worry, them now being in the mainstream will expose them for what they are and they will hopefully collaspe under this scrunity/exposure.
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| Quote AJ="AJ"The BNP winning a seat isnt a worry, them now being in the mainstream will expose them for what they are and they will hopefully collaspe under this scrunity/exposure.'"
I would like to think that you are right. However looking at the "calibre" of their voters on the telly I feel that things will get worse in the short term.
Education of the working classes is the only way to ensure we rid this country of fascists
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| I respect the fact that people have the right not to vote but it nevertheless staggers me that so few people actually do. When you consider how many people willingly pick up the phone every Saturday night and vote for stuff like Strictly Come Dancing, Big Brother and The X Factor, I can't believe that such a small proportion of those exercise their right to vote for people who will actually can and will make a difference to their lives.
I can't remember any occasion since I turned 18 where I've not voted; especially since moving to Wigan, where every vote counts for my particular party of choice. Just voting at all has only been a privilege we women have enjoyed for the last century or so, and throughout history people have given their lives to enable me to do so. The least I can do is return my ballot paper.
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| They all **** us over anyway thats why i dont vote
All they care about is £££££
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| Quote king warrior="king warrior"They all **** us over anyway thats why i dont vote
All they care about is £££££'"
What's your alternative then? Either we exercise our votes and elect a governing body (whether by voting for candidates whose policies/personalities we can associate with or by standing ourselves if we can't find one that suits us) or we don't have a vote at all and end up like North Korea or something.
By not voting, all you've done is remain non-commital to your 'they all **** us over anyway' standpoint by not electing an alternative. You have essentially just allowed it to happen/allowed whoever it is to 'get away' with it.
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| Quote Vicki_w="Vicki_w"What's your alternative then? Either we exercise our votes and elect a governing body (whether by voting for candidates whose policies/personalities we can associate with or by standing ourselves if we can't find one that suits us) or we don't have a vote at all and end up like North Korea or something.
By not voting, all you've done is remain non-commital to your 'they all **** us over anyway' standpoint by not electing an alternative. You have essentially just allowed it to happen/allowed whoever it is to 'get away' with it.'"
i dont vote because i dont think whatever party is elected anything would change
we'd still get taxed to death
petrol would still be sky high as would all other things cigs,beer etc
it would be a case of same s**t different guy
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| Quote Kench Lucas="Kench Lucas"i dont vote because i dont think whatever party is elected anything would change
we'd still get taxed to death
petrol would still be sky high as would all other things cigs,beer etc
it would be a case of same s**t different guy'" This 100%
All everyone who votes is choosing what toff screws us over
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| But you can't really complain about stuff if you don't get off your ass and do something about it - if you feel strongly about high taxes or whatever, then vote for someone whose policy is different to encourage a positive change. For the EU elections last week there was enough choice on the ballot paper to keep everyone happy, from the far right to the far left and plenty in between. And if you don't like any of them, stand yourself.
I think the 'they're all the same' argument is pretty naive and ill-informed - if I'm not happy with the person I voted for last time, I vote for someone different next time to get them out of office, as is the general idea. If nobody voted, nothing would ever change (or even stand a chance of doing so).
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| Changing the subject slightly.
anyone noticed how much Cricket gets covered on SKy sports news?. every single boring incident gets covered in great detail all bleeding day long. does my heed in
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| Quote Vicki_w="Vicki_w"But you can't really complain about stuff if you don't get off your ass and do something about it - if you feel strongly about high taxes or whatever, then vote for someone whose policy is different to encourage a positive change. For the EU elections last week there was enough choice on the ballot paper to keep everyone happy, from the far right to the far left and plenty in between. And if you don't like any of them, stand yourself.
I think the 'they're all the same' argument is pretty naive and ill-informed - if I'm not happy with the person I voted for last time, I vote for someone different next time to get them out of office, as is the general idea. If nobody voted, nothing would ever change (or even stand a chance of doing so).'" Does it really anyway?
It's all the same people all the time cause the whole system is benter than a nine bob note i just leave them to it myself and i'm sure quite a few people do tbh
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| Quote nikos="nikos"Any ignorant fools on here voted BNP?
Cos its people like you that let Hitler steal power in Germany'"
It's a sad reflection of politics in this country that the BNP have received such a high number of votes, a lot of people have lost faith in Westminster. Whilst I will never vote for a bunch of pricks like the BNP, I can understand why people use it as a protest vote. It's about time the major political parties woke up and acted in the best interests of their electorate, that is a democracy.
I personally didn't vote. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Labour after recent events, but IMO there is no-one who could do a better job than them. Voting would be giving my approval to one of them and none of them are worth it. Very sad times 
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| Quote Orrell Lad="Orrell Lad"It's a sad reflection of politics in this country that the BNP have received such a high number of votes, a lot of people have lost faith in Westminster. Whilst I will never vote for a bunch of pricks like the BNP, I can understand why people use it as a protest vote. It's about time the major political parties woke up and acted in the best interests of their electorate, that is a democracy.
I personally didn't vote. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Labour after recent events, but IMO there is no-one who could do a better job than them. Voting would be giving my approval to one of them and none of them are worth it. Very sad times
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But it's because of people like you, and me  , that the BNP have got in. It's not a mistake I'll be making again.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"But it's because of people like you, and me
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If most sensible people who perhaps didnt vote this time, use this as a lesson why they should, then it will not be a problem again.
FWIW, Vicki is pretty much right about the rest.
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| Quote AJ="AJ"If most sensible people who perhaps didnt vote this time, use this as a lesson why they should, then it will not be a problem again.
FWIW, Vicki is pretty much right about the rest.'"
My boss didn't vote and she was saying today how horrified she was that she'd contributed to the BNP success - she's another one who won't forget next time. It just goes to show what complacency can lead to.
Quote AJ="king warrior"i just leave them to it myself and i'm sure quite a few people do tbh'"
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