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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"A back line of Tomkins, Manfredi, Gelling, Gildart and Burgess looks good to me.'"
I agree. And with Williams and Smith starting to gel again; that a line up that potentially has a few years in it.
My only concern is the cover. From the current squad we have Fell, Higginson, Tierney and Shorrocks. Of those only Tierney is SL ready now; so which of the others are capable of becoming 'bolters' like Gildart, and able to hold their own in SL in a short time. If Rocky hasnt burnt his bridges, he will get plenty of game time next year if he returns.
Another old head in the back line as cover would be very handy. Weve seen how Smith's game has come on again now that he has an old pro like Sam back, so we dont want to be in the same position again next year.
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| We could do with a utility replacement for Sarginson IMO.
Realistically somebody like Ratchford will be out of reach but a player who can cover a few positions would be handy.
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| Lots on the Rhinos fans site regarding Hardaker, Watkins and Hall. With both Sarge and Josh leaving and Rads currently in Austrailia looking for a winger do you think Mr Lenegan will put his hand in his pocket and look to pair Watkins and Joe Burgess at the Warriors next season. I think we are just a world class centre/winger partnership from taking over Superleague for the next five years, it is no coincidence that the clubs currently being courted as Grand Final winners Hull, Catalan and Warrington have invested in quality players? I love to watch Wigan born players in the side but they need to be suplimented by real quality and experience so Ian please exploit the situation at Headingley and steal their jewel and bring him to the DW for 16/17.
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| I have always admired Watkins...with him being a local lad too always hoped he may want to play for Warrington one day. I have to say now, even if this season is a one off...i wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
He has shown that when the going gets tough, he goes missing, no desire to pull his team through, sub standard performances and a real lack of heart.
I hope him and Hall don't get picked by Bennett too.
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| I've always had Warkins down as vastly over rated. Yes he's decent and one of the better centres in the league but the standard is pretty poor overall and he's not in the class of the likes of Connolly or Newlove (the last English centres to carry as much hype IMO).
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"I've always had Warkins down as vastly over rated. Yes he's decent and one of the better centres in the league but the standard is pretty poor overall and he's not in the class of the likes of Connolly or Newlove (the last English centres to carry as much hype IMO).'"
He's nowhere near those two, nor is he even close to Leeds best English Centre in recent history, Keith senior. I've also always thought he was well overrated, and considering he would take a fair chunk of cash I'd hope we stay well clear (watch him sign for us and have an amazing season) .
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| I'd go so far to say Ryan Atkins deserves to be in the England set up more than Watkins.
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| Quote Wire Yed="Wire Yed"I'd go so far to say Ryan Atkins deserves to be in the England set up more than Watkins.'"
I'm not Atkins' biggest fan, but it's fair to say he totally owned Watkins last week.
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| I've always thought Atkins would do a decent job on the wing internationally but as a centre I'd be slightly embarrassed if we had to pick him! He hasn't got any sort of ability to get his winger away in anything other then acres of space. He's athletically very good though but a bit like Watkins, he's a bit if a flat track bully. Wire have been excellent this year and he's playing well but when the chips were down over the last couple of seasons he was nowhere to be seen.
I got told a story about him a few years ago after he went on tour with England and his attitude was supposedly very poor. The story went that he threw his toys out the pram and said he didn't see any point in us playing the Aussies and Kiwis as we had no chance of beating them. His form in a struggling Wire side compared to an on form Wire side would seem to back that story up!!
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| Atkins and Watkins are very similar players both strong fast and athletic who look good in a decent team with everyone inside them doing the job to make them look good but put them in a poor team and you won't even notice they are there. Shouldn't be anywhere near an England shirt but sadly probably the best we have.
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| Quote FIOS="FIOS"Atkins and Watkins are very similar players both strong fast and athletic who look good in a decent team with everyone inside them doing the job to make them look good but put them in a poor team and you won't even notice they are there. Shouldn't be anywhere near an England shirt but sadly probably the best we have.'"
If Percival can get himself fit he can be far better than those two. He is a very classy player IMO. We have Reed and Cudjoe as options so neither are a foregone conclusion. It's fair to say on this seasons form I'm not as comfortable with the centres as I was last year.
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| Quote Trainman="Trainman"If Percival can get himself fit he can be far better than those two. He is a very classy player IMO. We have Reed and Cudjoe as options so neither are a foregone conclusion. It's fair to say on this seasons form I'm not as comfortable with the centres as I was last year.'"
I'd put cudjoe in the same bracket as Atkins and Watkins. Reed I've not seen enough of to be honest. Percival and Gildart both look promising but have a long way to go yet.
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| It's a shame Percival had been injured most of the year because I think he's our best hope to develop in to a really top centre. I've bagged Watkins a bit above but in fairness he's still just about the best we've got currently and he's far far better then Atkins (even if Atkins did outplay him last week).
I'm not a Cudjoe fan either really but he has had a good season. It's worrying that a lad that limited has probably been the best English centre in the comp this year.
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| Bateman suspended for a month according to the front of tomorrow's League Express.
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| Quote Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Bateman suspended for a month according to the front of tomorrow's League Express.'"
Do we know if that's the end of the matter? Or is he suspended for a month pending the enquiries that are going on?
If it is a month it'll be touch and go for the Cas cup tie. I think if it was four weeks (as I'd heard) he'd be back the day before (if they took it from the infamous night) but if it's a full month he'll miss it. That says it all really in terms of how serious it must be.
It's all speculation at the minute.
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| Quote Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Bateman suspended for a month according to the front of tomorrow's League Express.'"
I think most of us had heard this. Without going into the detail the offending "injury" looked minimal on Friday night, certainly less than what I'd heard on the grapevine.
Whether this will have a bearing on the outcome I'm not sure. Would be gutting to lose him, let's hope (if there is a chance) that it can be put to bed once punishments have been dished out and served.
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| I wonder if Wane will keep picking him in the 19-man squads 
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| To be fair the club was 100% correct in naming him in the 19 man squad. It dampened down the speculation straight away and let them concentrate on the Salfird game. Now we all know he's done something though the official outcome will need to come out ahead of the HKR game.
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| I literally put him in my dream team just before the Cas game. Typical!
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"Lomax
Makinson Percival (Wardle) Swift
Fages <new scrum half>
Amor Roby <new prop>
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<New hooker> Savelio Walmsley Thompson
Don't want Escare, I'd rather we brought Burns back than move JLo, and I've been told Wigan have matched our offer to TL so he's signed for them.'"
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An announcement that tells us pretty much nothing, typical Wigan 
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| Inquiry still ongoing? B***ocks. It's like waiting for Chilcot!
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| How long does it take to ask a few lads a few questions??
Did you call XXXXX a ?
Yes
Ok, you suspended for a week and fined a months wages...
Did you hit XXXXX?
Yes
With a bottle?
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Ok, you're suspended for a month and fined a months wages...
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"Inquiry still ongoing? B***ocks. It's like waiting for Chilcot!'"
To be fair, I think Lenagan and Rads are still out of the country. Bit unfair having a disciplinary hearing via Skype...
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