I've not read anything to cause me these worries to be honest. When I read that it's going to be a tough pre season I read it as meaning it'll be mentally hard knowing we under performed so badly, not that the players will be excessively flogged for it!

I wonder if they get the trip to Florida again or will it be back to the army camp? Either way, I concur that we need some fresh thinking and some new blood.

In his speech last night IL mentioned that in years 2010/11/12/13 we won 6 trophies in 4 years. In the 4 years since we have won 1 domestic trophy plus the WCC.



I agree with what's been said. We hear after every loss that next week's going to be a tough week in training. Again it's going to be a tough pre season.



Everyone who spoke talked about a disappointing end to a season and we need to improve.

So what changes are going to made to ensure that we see a massive improvement next year.

The "tough week" is just the same old, same old.

We need a new approach to bring different results.

The club has hinted another asst coach may be brought in.

Something has to improve prior to season ticket season sales first deadline or else it could be a disappointing time for the club.

Get an attacking coach in, give him the responsibility of moulding the attack and stay at Orrell to work on it. I've never understood warm weather pre season camps when you're preparing for a season which you'll be playing games in poor conditions for the first couple of months.



They'll get sun on their backs over in Australia this year regardless. If they can hit their straps with the ball in the January cold and mud of Wigan, they'll find Australia a breeze.

I agree with this. After every defeat, SW repeated a variation of:



1 - we fell below our standards....

2 - they didn't see the best of us.....

3 - that's not a Wigan performance....



The truth is that for the majority of the season, it was our standard and it was a Wigan performance. He's right that they didn't see the best of us and what we saw just wasn't good enough.

Big rumours doing the rounds that FPN has gone and will be swapped with Newcastle's Trent Hodgkinson, a goal kicking 7. Deal supposed to be concluded this week.

I honestly think this would be a perfect fit for us. I really hope this comes off.

Think this rumour is a deal with an English forward. Walmsley has been mentioned.

I've seen a link with Warrington too!!

I've seen him linked with Warrington too!!

According to RL Mole on Twitter, Warrington are set to announce Steve Price as their head coach. His targets are Ben Murdock-Masilla, Tyrone Roberts and Bryson Goodwin.

Hull KR showing real interest in Ben Murdoch Masila. Another player that would improve us significantly with genuine size and strike.

BMM is going to Wire now, feel around £170k. Roberts and Goodwin also signed.