Must admit, it would feel like a bit of a comedown after the NSW half.

The way I look at it...Albert Kelly was bang average in the HKR side and has been a revelation in the Hull setup. I genuinely think he may come good in our setup playing alongside GW

Kelly was Hull KRs player of the year in his first season with them when he was the main influence in them getting to the cup final. I think it went sour for him in his second season. But he wasn't bang average otherwise Hull would never have taken him.



Anyway what we need is a kicking scrum half who can lead and organise things, I don't see the lad from Leigh being able to do that.

That's a lovely analogy!





And the 'NSW half', I would suggest, is a busted flush who couldn't cement a place in the worst team in the comp last season.

Worse than Tommy?



Genuine question, because I haven't seen as ineffective a no. 7 in a Wigan shirt as Tommy has been this year in as long as I can remember.

Gelling to Widnes???

This wasn't the same mate who told you Hock was forced out of the club by gangsters was it?

Moran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I miss the daily Denis Moran picture threads (can you tell its the off season)

Honestly yes it was! I think I need to change my sources.

Jeeez. Thanks for reminding me. Is this really what we've slid back to?

Mark Reber

Not this again!

Tommy the first time around was pretty close.

Not worse than Tommy, no, but I think his fitness is a concern, to say the least.

Been told NZ Warriors

If Gelling leaves who would replace him?

Forsyth probably. He seems to have disappeared into thin air though!

I thought that we wanted to improve the team. Forsyth is not ready to step into Gellings shoes yet. Despite the frustrations a fit Gelling is a bigger threat than anyone in the squad. I still see him as more of a wide second row though.

Gelling tweeted the other day that we'll be back like herpes next year so it doesn't sound like he's got plans to move on.



We need him imo although we could do with another centre/utility player to add some pressure for his place.

That would be just the huge forward stride we've all been calling for.



Not.

He's a bigger threat than anyone else in the squad?!

Pretty happy with the Gelling and Gildart in the centres. Gellings carries coming out of our own end are priceless.



Agreed we could do with a Sargison type signing (not him not but some like him in 2014). Just for a bit of depth.

It seems to me that all talk of replacing our underperforming right centre is a distraction from reality.



I'd love to replace Gelling with someone better, but as he's under contract (and is sometimes capable of putting on a good show), I don't consider a new no. 3 a burning priority.



With a stronger and more aggressive front row, and a more skilled halfback pairing, the three-quarters might actually show what they're capable of.



I'd add that with different tactics - i.e. less use of our centres and wingers as battering rams while our slow, lazy props have yet another rest - we might also see some spark from the backs, but it's starting to feel as if a change of coaching staff is not really on the cards. At least, not yet.