I wouldn't mind seeing Joel get a few games at centre. He's a big lad but is pretty rapid and he'd cause all sorts of problems out there.



I know Cameron Smith said McGuire was responsible for changing a couple of players positions like Cooper Cronk from a 9 to a 7 and he may look at a couple of options here.

Yes u are.....



What has mossop done in his 6/7 games to suggest he's a better player than Joel?



Has he been Wigans top try scorer?

Has he come runner up in the young player of the year award?

Has mossop got a try for the first team that made u think this guy is special?



Joel HAS done all the above----Mossop hasn't



Mossop is a talent but so far he's not done as well at first grade level as Joel

Bollocks

I think Joel has a lot to prove this year his career could kick on or it could go the way of Danny Sculthorpe, he needs to be a lot smarter.

Have to say I still need a lot of convincing over Joel Tomkins' long-term future at Wigan.

Going off the game where both Mossop and Joel played at the back end of last year, Mossop, Hansen and even Flanagan outperformed Joel in most games.



We need a big improvement from him next year, because he has shown potential, we need him to play well to soften the blow of losing Hock.

To write off Tomkins would be silly imo. He's shown in flashes he's got alot of talent but he needs to cut out some silly errors from his game. He just seems to have alot of brain farts like the 2 in the play offs against Cas and then Saints where he tried to take the last defender on the outside with about 3 inches worth of pitch to play in.



On the positive side of you saying Mossop was better then Tomkins late on in the year i'd like to think thats because he did so well. He is a huge lad and just gets through big metres and plenty of tackling. The league game away at Knowsley Rd was his best preformence imo and really got everyones mouth watering as to how good he could be.

Joel is a good player. He can be brilliant but can also be quite daft.

If he matures and ups his game awareness he could be far better than he is now. He has size on his side.

There is a lot of competition for places in the back row and Joel should be right there.

If he attains consistancy both within a game as well as game to game then he could be one of the best in the League.

100% Agree, probs a bit harsh of me to say he was crap but still, we all mu st agree he needs to show improvement for next year

worth a punt? Loti Tuquiri sacked...



[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/rugby/tuqiri-decision-had-to-be-made/story-e6frey4i-1225804920614[/url



heres the real reason he got sacked too. Sh@gged a 20 yr old..



[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sunday-telegraph/revealed-the-real-reason-lote-tuqiri-was-sacked/story-e6frewt0-1225769801885[/url

Old news pal he is currently over here playing for Leicester Tigers Union on a short term deal, apparently signed for West Tigers for 2010.

Old news I know but...



Reports that Mr Colcquit(?) has come out saying that James Graham will not be leaving Saints as he is contracted to the club...blah, blah, blah!



Does make you wonder if the Chief Exec doth protest too much?!



Wouldn't be suprised if he moved on, would be even less suprised if IL didn't splash the cash should he become available