Luke Young. British, can play both full back positions, was in the England squad last november and would be signed as back up.



I'd rather have him than Tony Hibbert. Or Gary Neville. Or Paulo Ferreira.



But yeah, it's hilarious.

Another brilliantly constructive piece. Again, what do you not agree with?



The proof will be in the pudding. If anyone is willing to lay me the 2/1 the bookies are offering on Liverpool finishing top 4 I'll have £100 with the first person who takes the offer. That goes to anyone. If we're as shat as the brilliantly original smiley faces are so eloquently putting it, then there will be plenty of willing participants.



How people can write off a Liverpool team including Reina, Agger, Gerrard, Cole and Torres baffles me. Who has a stronger spine than that?



Reina Agger Gerrard Cole Torres

Cech Terry Lampard Malouda Drogba

Van De Sar Vidic Scholes Nani Rooney

Almunia Vermalaen Fabregas Nasri Van persie

Given Toure Barry Silva Tevez



Wouldn't swap you for any of them. Chelsea fans would say the same I'm sure. I KNOW our squad hasn't the depth of the rest of the top teams in the PL but there's 2.5 weeks until the start of the season and RH has shown enough so far for me to have a certain amount of trust in who he will sign.





Time will tell.

Aye mate I know but if id have said that instead of Total Network Solutions no fecker would have known what I was on about

bwin are offering 11/5 with most of the other bookies having Liverpool odds on for a top four finish.





I agree that's a strong looking spine and I can only imagine it was a combination of the other players and manager that meant that that spine finished 7th last year.

No way I'd swap our spine as you put it for yours. I'd have Fletcher there instead of Scholes.



VDS> Reina

Vidic> Agger

Gerrard > Fletcher

Nani > Cole

Rooney > Torres



Nuff said.

We wont finish in the top four imo. Not good enough and with por signings like Luke Young on there way then we have no chance. Hopefully Dani Pacheco plays a big part in our season. That lad can become a star.



On a funny note. The guy that would have Van Der Sar over Reina



Get real.

I'd say the Arsenal, City and Chelsea ones are stronger. Along with Kirkland, Caldwell, Diame, N'Zogbia, Rodallega.

Two-time european cup winner, 3 time premiership winner. Won medals in 3 different leagues. Reina is a Barca reject who has profited due to Liverpools defensive style of play.

Oh dear. You do realise that Cole didn't play for us and Agger, Gerrard and Torres played about 50% of available games don't you?

Agger and Cole? Looks like you'll still be relying on Gerrard and Torres to me.

Only Vidic is superior to his rival of them 5. Rooney and Torres can't be split for me.



As for the City one..



Reina > Given

Agger > Toure

Gerrard > Barry

Cole - Silva......Silva has a lot to prove in the prem

Torres > Tevez.



Arsenal



Reina > Almunia

Agger > Vermaelan

Fabregas > Gerrard

Cole > Nasri

Torres > Van Persie.





Look, I know our squad isn't good enough. My point is that IF we keep our spine fit we'll be miles better than the 7th we finished last year, good enough for 4th place IMO. If the other 6 players step up and play to their potential we could possibly do a bit better. What's so funny? 2 years ago the same team give or take a couple scored 86 premiership points. The 2 main missing players Alonso and Mascherano scored 1 goal between them all season. I know teams have improved which is why I'mnot setting my sights on top 2 or 3. I'd take top 4 and I firmly believe we are capable.

How much of Agger have you seen? What don't you like about him?

Joe Cole looked fairly decent to me when he settled the Premier League title race last season.

When did Joe Cole become so good?

So our defence IS good then.

When did he become such a poor player?

Liverpool fans, dontcha just love them.



Gerrard has been gash for 2 seasons now and the ladyboy was annonymous for the entire 2009/2010 season. if you really think they are suddenly going to recapture their best form under a mid table manager coupled with the arival of someone who does 25 step overs and then gives the ball away before getting injured, you are clearly mistaken.



As for the rest of the "spine", they would struggle to get in most of last seasons top half premiership clubs.

Nothing I 'don't like about him' he's a decent defender but hardly someone I would single out as top quality. The best thing going for Joe Cole was that he got limited opportunity at the World Cup and thus came home with a better reputation through not playing than he would have if he had played!

Just because he can play both positions doesn't mean he's any good there. Emile Heskey went the World Cup, England do pick , that means nothing. I bet two weeks ago you wouldn't have been so happy with a signing of Luke Young's calibre.







I wouldn't & I think if you take your tinted specs off you wouldn't either.







It is, he's a shocking signing and it just shows how you're falling further behind the top 4/5.

You'd better tell the Football writers association about that. Gerrard won their player of the year in 2008/2009. So I'd imagine he wasn't gash. In fact,I'd say other than the ludicrous awards Giggs won that year, Gerrard would have cleaned up. Regardless, you've made yourself look daft by calling him gash.



Torres was anonymous last year. Well,when he was injured he was. Other than that he scored 22 goals in 32 games. I don't know how he managed to get by being so anonymous with such a great record.









So Agger and Cole wouldn't get in at Aston Villa, Blackburn, Birmingham, Everton, Tottenham or City?





Heitinga, Dunne, Bassong, Ridgewell, Collins and Samba couldn't lace Agger's boots

I could name 20 midfielders from these clubs who couldn't lace Cole's boots, but I don't want to make you look stupider than you obviously are.

He's better than Insua and Degen and therefore he is an improvement on what we have. Christ, he'll be luckyto get a game if everyone is fit but what are we supposed to do with limited funds? Sign two left backs at £10million each when we have other areas that need strengthening? Of what is available I'd take him. BTW, the cheeky c*nt is holding out for more money sowe probably won't even sign him!







Neville is finished, Hibbert never got started (don't tell me that Everton fans like him,I know for a fact the majority despair when he plays) and Ferreira is possibly the most overrated full back I've ever seen. For £2million I'd take Luke Young over the £14 million it cost for Ferriera







I'm quite willing to be proved wrong, hence my offer of having a bet with anyone who is convinced about how e we are.

Surely you haven't been relying on just three players.

So Cole is going to take you from 7th to top 4? Good luck

Ha, possibly true about Cole but a fresh start in his favourite position genuinely excites me. Again, I'm willing to be proven wrong.



On Agger, I bet Torres doesn't make him wear a dog leash at training like he does to Vidic every time we play United.

You've clearly made yourself look like a tit too 'cos Heitinga hasn't been playing centre half for us he's been playing DM.



But we'll play your game anyway, no Agger wouldn't dislodge Heitinga or Jagielka from the centre of defense. Your spine isn't as wonderful as you make it out to be, on lasy year's showing Gerrard was gash and a bit more of the same will do nicely.



Tim Howard or Reina I'd happily take either both very good goalkeepers



Jags or Heitinga over Agger all day



On last years showing I'd rather have Arteta, Fellaini or Cahill over Gerrard, all had much much better seasons.



Torres I'll give you but he would walk into most if not all PL teams.

Torres out for 50% of season yet still managed to play 32 times?