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| Asim, do you remember out Grant Holt/Peter Throne League 2 bet a few years back? Can't quite believe Holt is a premiership striker now!
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| Quote Asim="Asim"It's not as ridiculous for Roma as it originally sounds, basically Barca have to buy him back for €13m after the 2 years whether they want him or not, but if he's blossomed into something special Roma can stop that from happening by paying the extra €28m.
In reality if he isn't super special and Roma want to keep him they'll probably get him for a more realistic price if Barcelona don't want or need him back.'"
Is that how it works then? My understanding of first option is that they get first refusal rather than HAVE to buy him.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Is that how it works then? My understanding of first option is that they get first refusal rather than HAVE to buy him.'"
That's what I thought at first but after reading a report in the Spanish press it seems it is the way I describe it.
edit - Sid Lowe seems to see it the way I do from what he's posted on twitter.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Asim, do you remember out Grant Holt/Peter Throne League 2 bet a few years back? Can't quite believe Holt is a premiership striker now!'"
Yep! One hell of a rapid rise, fair play to him though he's scored plenty in each division he's played in.
Thorne's back packed in for good and he retired, apparently he's travelling the world and surfing a lot, it's a hard life.
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| Quote Asim="Asim"That's what I thought at first but after reading a report in the Spanish press it seems it is the way I describe it.
edit - Sid Lowe seems to see it the way I do from what he's posted on twitter.'"
Ah! Thanks for clearing that up. Makes a lot more sense that way for both parties.
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| Quote Asim="Asim"It's not as ridiculous for Roma as it originally sounds, basically Barca have to buy him back for €13m after the 2 years whether they want him or not, but if he's blossomed into something special Roma can stop that from happening by paying the extra €28m.
In reality if he isn't super special and Roma want to keep him they'll probably get him for a more realistic price if Barcelona don't want or need him back.'"
Sid Lowe was reporting Barcelona had to buy him back but Catalunya Radio said it was an option to buy back.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Sid Lowe was reporting Barcelona had to buy him back but Catalunya Radio said it was an option to buy back.'"
Again then, what happens if nobody wants him?
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Again then, what happens if nobody wants him?'"
He goes to Sunderland.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"He goes to Sunderland.'"

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| Liverpool to reduce the MUFC away allocation to 1950 due to persistant standing.
Don't seem to have taken title number 19 very well down in mersyside. 
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| Quote Karlos13="Karlos13"Liverpool to reduce the MUFC away allocation to 1950 due to persistant standing.
Don't seem to have taken title number 19 very well down in mersyside.
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How many do you usually receive?
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| Quote Dan_FC="Dan_FC"How many do you usually receive?'"
Just under 3000.
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| Quote Dan_FC="Dan_FC"Why should Jagielka leave for less than £15m? If others clubs are over pricing their players then we can too. He's better than Cahill and Bolton want around £17m for him. Jags has always been very hit and miss at times for me, he's a good defender as you say reads the game well, he's quick and quite strong too but he has his lapses at times as well. He is good in the air though, doesn't dominate and has a big tendancy to let a high or long ball drift over him instead of dealing with it in the air, that's cost us a few times, if they come back around £18m it might be worth thinking about.'"
Cahill's 3/4 years younger than Jagielka, and, whilst Jagielka is better now, Cahill has more potential, for me.
£15m is overpricing a player, think about it, he's 29 and he's never played in the tampons league. You've got to remember, Jagielka is a centre half, their prices are always generally cheaper than attacking players, don't ask why, it's just the way it is. Realistically, Jagielka isn't worth over £10m, so asking for just under £15m is an inflated price IMO. Jagielka's price will only go down as father time catches up on him. Moyes has to be sensible and realize he could probably find another good defender (when you take his record with defenders into account) for a much cheaper price.
Everton have to be realistic about their plans. They're a club that rely solely on transfer income, if they're getting £15m for a player who's 30 in a year, then they have to ask themselves if they'll get any more than that or if it's time to cash in.
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| Is it just me who reckons Bojan is vastly overrated?
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Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Sid Lowe was reporting Barcelona had to buy him back but Catalunya Radio said it was an option to buy back.'"
The statement on Barcelona's website states it is a obligatory buy back option.
www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/ ... 18387.html
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The statement on Barcelona's website states it is a obligatory buy back option.
www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/ ... 18387.html
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"Is it just me who reckons Bojan is vastly overrated?'"
You can't really tell. He scores goals for fun whenever he gets a game, he's still very young and could well kick on and be whatever he wants.
Conversely, he could just have looked good and scored because he was in Barca's team. You won't know until he tries it somewhere else.
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In effect it's a season long loan then. Ireally hope the lad gets some proper minutes. Coming on for the last 15 minutes when you're side is sitting back on a 3-0 lead won't do any forward favours.
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In effect it's a season long loan then. Ireally hope the lad gets some proper minutes. Coming on for the last 15 minutes when you're side is sitting back on a 3-0 lead won't do any forward favours.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"In effect it's a season long loan then. Ireally hope the lad gets some proper minutes. Coming on for the last 15 minutes when you're side is sitting back on a 3-0 lead won't do any forward favours.'"
I think the fact he's gone to play for Luis Enrique has an interesting sub-plot, with Guardiola leaving at the end of next season a good season at Roma could make him a front runner for that job - as with Guardiola before him he's done a very good job with Barcelona B.
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| Quote inside_man="inside_man"You can't really tell. He scores goals for fun whenever he gets a game, he's still very young and could well kick on and be whatever he wants.
Conversely, he could just have looked good and scored because he was in Barca's team. You won't know until he tries it somewhere else.'"
Fair do's, he just doesn't impress me when he eventually did get some game time for Barca. He lacks that something for me, but as you say he's still only young. I prefer this Kerrison who Barca have in their ranks at the minute, he's only 21 and currently on loan at Santos, he'll be a very good player, IMO.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"Fair do's, he just doesn't impress me when he eventually did get some game time for Barca. He lacks that something for me, but as you say he's still only young. I prefer this Kerrison who Barca have in their ranks at the minute, he's only 21 and currently on loan at Santos, he'll be a very good player, IMO.'"
Isn't Kerrison the seal dribbling guy? If anything, I'd say he's the more overrated of the two. He hasn't achieved half as much as Bojan (and he's only 20).
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"In effect it's a season long loan then. Ireally hope the lad gets some proper minutes. Coming on for the last 15 minutes when you're side is sitting back on a 3-0 lead won't do any forward favours.'"
Catalancs, have Malaga signed Carzola yet? We go Malaga each year and I'm loving there new ownership and the players they are bringing it. Got to be looking for a Champs League spot this year/next.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"Catalancs, have Malaga signed Carzola yet? We go Malaga each year and I'm loving there new ownership and the players they are bringing it. Got to be looking for a Champs League spot this year/next.'"
Cazorla? I read a couple of days ago that Madrid were still interested but the Villareal president was sticking to his guns to either ensure a big price or that he stays at El Madrigal. I'd be very surprised to see him at Malaga next season. I think Malaga need a big season or maybe two before they can start signing players like Cazorla. By big I mean qualifying for Europe while making an impact in the league and getting to the final of the Copa del Rey.
As for Keirrison, I'm with inside man. There was a lot of noise when he signed and he was seen as one for the future (by me at least), but limited football in Portugal and Italy haven't helped his development. I may be wrong but I don't think he's ever played a competitive game for Barça and unless he has an absolute stand out season at Santos I don't think he ever will.
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| Quote inside_man="inside_man":3tb2b28cIsn't Kerrison the seal dribbling guy? If anything, I'd say he's the more overrated of the two. He hasn't achieved half as much as Bojan (and he's only 20).'" :3tb2b28c
He is, and he hasn't as he's struggled to get into the side, as a wide men it would mean moving one of Pedro or Messi to accomodate him, that's why I'm looking forward to seeing who Guardiola removes to fit Sanchez in. You could be right, I just guess it's abit like the Bojan one for me, he's quite young yet so lets see how he matures and whether he becomes a real good footballer.
Quote inside_man="Catalancs":3tb2b28cCazorla? I read a couple of days ago that Madrid were still interested but the Villareal president was sticking to his guns to either ensure a big price or that he stays at El Madrigal. I'd be very surprised to see him at Malaga next season. I think Malaga need a big season or maybe two before they can start signing players like Cazorla. By big I mean qualifying for Europe while making an impact in the league and getting to the final of the Copa del Rey.
As for Keirrison, I'm with inside man. There was a lot of noise when he signed and he was seen as one for the future (by me at least), but limited football in Portugal and Italy haven't helped his development. I may be wrong but I don't think he's ever played a competitive game for Barça and unless he has an absolute stand out season at Santos I don't think he ever will.'" were definitley interested and apparantley bid 20M Euros. A quick look online and it seems Cazorla wants to stay with Villarreal. They've been linked with quite a few players, apparantley they made a 35M bid for Sneidjer. You know, I read somewhere that they were reportedly tracking Tevez's movement, now that Corinthians have pulled out, I wouldn't be suprised if they came in and made a cheeky bid, apparantley Tevez has a place there and loves going.
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