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| Hull City agree to sign Sunderlands Daryl Murphy for 1.5m........failed to score in 27 appearances last season.......Just got to love Phil Browns policy of signing strickers who cant score.
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| Quote st.stephen="st.stephen"Eh?'"
Well you claim Hilda "Would've banged in more goals next season" so you can see into the future and you know that Tevez won't score many goals next season?
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| Quote Dan_FC="Dan_FC"Well you claim Hilda "Would've banged in more goals next season" so you can see into the future and you know that Tevez won't score many goals next season?'"
Well,I can only go on his league tally for last years champions,5, I believe.
So I guess out of the two of us,it would be yourself seeing into the future,if you are implying he will be more prolific.I,am at least dealing with the actual,to borrow a phrase,"FAHCTS" as borne out last season.
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| Quote st.stephen="st.stephen"Well,I can only go on his league tally for last years champions,5, I believe.
So I guess out of the two of us,it would be yourself seeing into the future,if you are implying he will be more prolific.I,am at least dealing with the actual,to borrow a phrase,"FAHCTS" as borne out last season.'"
The 'fact' is that Tevez scored 34 goals in 99 league and cup starts.
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| Quote st.stephen="st.stephen"Well,I can only go on his league tally for last years champions,5, I believe.
So I guess out of the two of us,it would be yourself seeing into the future,if you are implying he will be more prolific.I,am at least dealing with the actual,to borrow a phrase,"FAHCTS" as borne out last season.'"
Where did I say he would be more prolific? I havn't mentioned that or argued that point. I was just interested to see how you can claim he won't score many next season.
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| Citeh following the Madrid way of thinking by signing many forward players but no defenders.
Their defence isnt too good either so Hughes might have to look backwards aswell as forwards.
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| City dont really need Tevez to be prolific. The goals are likely to be shared around Robinho, Ireland, Santa Cruz, Tevez etc rather than being dependant on one striker. Goal scoring just isnt likely to be a problem. His value to the team will be in his workrate and the impact he has on the players around him.
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| Quote Ande="Ande"Citeh following the Madrid way of thinking by signing many forward players but no defenders.
Their defence isnt too good either so Hughes might have to look backwards aswell as forwards.'"
To repeat just three very basic points that have been made several times already: 1) the transfer window is nowhere near closed.
2) strikers (the plural is deliberate) were an absolute must; we were desperately in need of quality strikers who can score goals regularly at Premier League level. We did not have these before. I cannot, as I said earlier, see all the strikers we currently have on our books staying.
3) Nils Zander is a defender. Gareth Barry can play in defence. With more midfield strength in depth, Zabaleta will be able to move back to play in his normal left back position. Kompany, when fit, can slot in very comfortably into central defence.
Quote Ande="Cibaman"City dont really need Tevez to be prolific. The goals are likely to be shared around Robinho, Ireland, Santa Cruz, Tevez etc rather than being dependant on one striker. Goal scoring just isnt likely to be a problem. His value to the team will be in his workrate and the impact he has on the players around him.'"
And wot he said.
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| Quote Dan_FC="Dan_FC"Where did I say he would be more prolific? I havn't mentioned that or argued that point. I was just interested to see how you can claim he won't score many next season.'"
And,conversely,how can anyone claim he will score a hatful?I guess we`ll see!Out of curiosity what is his goals/game ratio for Argentina?,seeing as his scoring record was brought up.
PS.Hilda would`ve stuck those tap-ins away v Stoke,WBA? and perhaps got equally as lucky v Wigan.Anyone remember the numerous chances missed in the Champions league final v Chelsea?
£35 mill,plus similar in wages?No thanks.Fergie was spot on.
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| Quote st.stephen="st.stephen"And,conversely,how can anyone claim he will score a hatful?...'"
They can't. But the facts of his career thus far are more indicative of that than your claim. 
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| Quote st.stephen="st.stephen"And,conversely,how can anyone claim he will score a hatful?I guess we`ll see!Out of curiosity what is his goals/game ratio for Argentina?,seeing as his scoring record was brought up.
PS.Hilda would`ve stuck those tap-ins away v Stoke,WBA? and perhaps got equally as lucky v Wigan.Anyone remember the numerous chances missed in the Champions league final v Chelsea?
£35 mill,plus similar in wages?No thanks.Fergie was spot on.'"
Fergie was spot on? eventhough he agreed the £25 million asking price and offered Tevez a five year contract that he turned down, how can Fergie be spot on. Tevez walked away, not United sending him packing.
I never claimed he would score a hat full, I just wanted to know how you know he won't score many next season. You are still missing the point.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"They can't. But the facts of his career thus far are more indicative of that than your claim.
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I disagree. 
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| Quote st.stephen="st.stephen"I disagree.
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With this?
Quote st.stephen="Mintball"The 'fact' is that Tevez scored 34 goals in 99 league and cup starts.'"

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| Quote Dan_FC="Dan_FC"Fergie was spot on? eventhough he agreed the £25 million asking price and offered Tevez a five year contract that he turned down, how can Fergie be spot on. Tevez walked away, not United sending him packing.
I never claimed he would score a hat full, I just wanted to know how you know he won't score many next season. You are still missing the point.'"
Therefore,that would beg the question-why did Tevez choose to leave the World Champions and Premier League Champions to go to Manchester City?Given that,he stated today that he wouldn`t sign for/respect a coach who guaranteed him a starting place?For the "PROJECT"?.
Wasn`t the problem that he didn`t get a regular starting place?Blah,blah,etc......Answers on the back of a tenner please.
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| Quote fc baldy="fc baldy"Hull City agree to sign Sunderlands Daryl Murphy for 1.5m........failed to score in 27 appearances last season.......Just got to love Phil Browns policy of signing strickers who cant score.'"
Appartently he can play Left-Mid and according to a few Sunderland fans hes a better Midfielder than Striker.
So fingers crossed he wont be signed as a striker! 
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| With all these strikers City are signing....where will that leave Bellamy....practising his putting.... 
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| there's no point acting like a school kid who's been dumped about tevez, he's gone
- scored some VITAL goals for United in 2 very succesful years
- seemed to think he got a raw deal in terms of starts
- he acted the ar$e a bit in the media a bit back end of the season.
- city were prepared to pay what was wanted for him, and presumably a lot more in wages.
all things considered - he did a good job for united but it's time for him to move on.
united did not value his worth as he or city do.
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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy"Appartently he can play Left-Mid and according to a few Sunderland fans hes a better Midfielder than Striker.
So fingers crossed he wont be signed as a striker!
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Do you need midfielders though...they may produce the ammo but who is going to fire it.
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| Tevez is a great signing for city. He's a mercenary, but then again, they all are to a certain extent - that's part of being a professional. What he is above everythig else, is a bloody hard working mercenary. It'll be interesting to see how he works with Adebayor.
Fascinating to see how city go next year. Is it going too far to say that 5th next season would be a failure?
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"Let's have a look, shall we? That'll be 266 career appearances and 91 goals.'"
Let`s have a look a little deeper shall we?......Only 1 season in about 8 or 9,did he score above 14 goals-20 I believe-for Corinthians.
Still no Argentina stats I see?
Not a great record @ West Ham either was it?......seeing as how he saved them single-handedly!
Look,we could go around in circles all night!....He just isn`t worth £35m transfer fee,and the same again in wages.
I am not in the least bit upset that he`s gone.I do however,resent the way the fans were played,the shaking of the head and the subsequent bleatings that have appeared in the press.
We are obviously never going to agree,so vive la difference! 
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"Let's have a look, shall we? That'll be 266 career appearances and 91 goals.'"
Just ignore him.
Tevez is a fantastic player / signing for City. He won't have been bought for his 20+ goals a season, but instead for his other play.
As a player I didn't want to see him leave, as a person I'm not bothered he's gone.
If City keep going as they are with transfers, I see no reason why they can't knock Arsenal out of the top 4.
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| Quote st.stephen="st.stephen"Not a great record @ West Ham either was it?......seeing as how he saved them single-handedly!
Look,we could go around in circles all night!....He just isn`t worth £35m transfer fee,and the same again in wages.'"
Is any player? This is the modern day market, and in fact, City have paid £25million.
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| Quote Nemanja="Nemanja"
Tevez is a fantastic player / signing for City. He won't have been bought for his 20+ goals a season, but instead for his other play.
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I agree. Tevez will be a great signing for city.
city fans on northwest tonight seem to have come up with an original chant for Tevez:
'Carlos Tevez is a blue, he hates munichs.'
Anyone find it strange that Ferguson said £32m for 21 year old Benzema is over-priced, despite having £105m to spend and paying £30m for an older player in Berbatov less than a year ago. Don't suppose he can come out and admit we're not allowed to spend the Ronaldo money though.
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