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| Quote Nemanja="Nemanja"Darren Fletcher would $hit all over him.
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| Jose Mourinho does not look happy at Inter these days.
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| Quote Robbie Rotten="Robbie Rotten"That comment, along with the bypassing of the swear filter deserves a banning, in my humblest of opinions
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Scouser... humble?
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| Quote The Wizard="The Wizard"Jose Mourinho does not look happy at Inter these days.'"
He needs a haircut.
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| Wizard, Aquilani has barely played yet. He can't be regarded as one of our first class players yet but you can't just rubbish him and put him alongside the likes of Lucas and Babel.
Things are going poorly at the moment, you won't get me arguing that, our CL campaign has been an utter embarrassment, four goals scored, only two clean sheets and three losses is as bad as it gets for us, you can't even blame the Yanks for this because I'm pretty sure our squad is dearer than Fiorentina's/Lyon's and our wage bill is higher, which seems to be the be all and end all according to Paul Tomkins.
We have massively underperformed all year, anybody denying that is lying, this season can only be regarded as a massive failure so far and will probably be regarded as that come May. However, I do think we'll finish in the top 4 and, with a bit of momentum behind us, win the Europa league.
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| Quote Robbie Rotten="Robbie Rotten"Wizard, Aquilani has barely played yet. He can't be regarded as one of our first class players yet but you can't just rubbish him and put him alongside the likes of Lucas and Babel.
Things are going poorly at the moment, you won't get me arguing that, our CL campaign has been an utter embarrassment, four goals scored, only two clean sheets and three losses is as bad as it gets for us, you can't even blame the Yanks for this because I'm pretty sure our squad is dearer than Fiorentina's/Lyon's and our wage bill is higher, which seems to be the be all and end all according to Paul Tomkins.
We have massively underperformed all year, anybody denying that is lying, this season can only be regarded as a massive failure so far and will probably be regarded as that come May. However, I do think we'll finish in the top 4 and, with a bit of momentum behind us, win the Europa league.'"
Hopefully you're right. Some good teams in the Europa league thou. Wolfsburg, Juventus and Shakhtar Dontesk would all be hard. As for the top 4 in the Prem - City have only lost 1 game all season and with January fast approaching the cash is already being withdrawn from the bank. Apparantly they're close to signing Phillip Lahm in January (quality left back).
Anyway heres hoping.
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| Quote The Wizard="The Wizard"Hopefully you're right. Some good teams in the Europa league thou. Wolfsburg, Juventus and Shakhtar Dontesk would all be hard. As for the top 4 in the Prem - City have only lost 1 game all season and with January fast approaching the cash is already being withdrawn from the bank. Apparantly they're close to signing Phillip Lahm in January (quality left back).
Anyway heres hoping.'"
City could do me a massive favour and offer Sol Campbell a contract if they like.
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| I know who Lahm is and I honestly believe he's overrated. He's a good player, quick and agile with a great engine, but I feel he's weak defensively and his attacking game isn't amazing. Would be good for them, though.
City is slightly worrying but we're in a decent position considering the shambles of a season so far, generally, we start to hit our peak physically around January/February which usually results in our best form, hopefully nobody big leaves in January and we can seal a top 4 place.
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| Quote Nemanja="Nemanja"City could do me a massive favour and offer Sol Campbell a contract if they like.'"
I'd like to agree also on this. 
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Having another great season isn't he. I'd love to see him at another club. He's influential at Liverpool there is no doubt and he can put in some dynamic performances. But stick him in at Barcelona and would he be up to it? It'd be interesting to see.
I just don't get how Benitez can still insist Liverpool are getting better.
Liverpool aren't going to be seeded in the Europa League apparantly. How the mightly have fallen.If they aren't seeded, one wonders who is
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You and me both
Landon Donovan though, really? I'm not so sure on this one.
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| Quote Robbie Rotten="Robbie Rotten"Johnson's the best right back in the league.'"
PMSL. I think your evaluations of players are usually spot on but this one isnt. id take Sagna at Arsenal or Bosingwa before Johnson. Since his addition, a very formidable defensive side has suddenly become an average defensive side. I agree that hes a very good attacking fullback but his all-round game isn't there for him to be described as best in the league.
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| The owners to start up rumours over Klinsmann again.
Rafa to kick off and say it was the final straw and walk.
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| Notts county up for sale! 
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| Quote EXILEDHULLADGATESHEAD="EXILEDHULLADGATESHEAD"Notts county up for sale!
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Sven & the current CEO interested in the purchase.
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| Quote Bevan Wire="Bevan Wire"PMSL. I think your evaluations of players are usually spot on but this one isnt. id take Sagna at Arsenal or Bosingwa before Johnson. Since his addition, a very formidable defensive side has suddenly become an average defensive side. I agree that hes a very good attacking fullback but his all-round game isn't there for him to be described as best in the league.'"
I think that is more down to Carragher having an awful time of it recently.
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| Quote The Wizard="The Wizard"
Heres a question for you, how many of our best 11 would get into either Man U, Chelsea or Arsenals best 11 ?
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Reina would start at any of the 3 clubs mentioned
Johnson would defintely get in Uniteds team and have a good shout of Arsenal or Chelseas
Gerrard would start at any of the 3 clubs mentioned
Mascherano would start for Arsenal
Torres would start at any of the 3 clubs.
So that's 3 that would walk into any of the other 3 teams. If we were doing a joint squad of the 4 teams, we would fill our share comfortably and could make a case for having 5 players in a hypothetical 18 man squad.
It's nothing to do with that though. It's the fact that United/Arsenal and Chelsea have better squad players than us. The likes of Agger, Benayoun and hopefully Aquilani are all good enough to be part of a championship winning side IMO but the likes of Aurelio, Degen, Babel, Riera, Kyriagkos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas (who has certainly been better this season), Ngog (currently) shouldn't be starting ANY crucial games for Liverpool.
All teams have poor players though. It's just that Liverpool seem to have more.
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| If i were to pick a team from the top 4 it'd be:
GK: Renia
LB: A Cole
CB: Vidic/Ferdinand
CB: Terry (C)
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CM: Gerrard
CM: Lampard
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DEF: Carragher (On his day)
DEF: Vidic/Ferdinand
MID: Carrick
MID: J Cole
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ST: Van Persie
I dont think Arsenal have a great squad, they have players who play well but would struggle to get in anyother team apart from RVP and Fabregas.
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| Quote Sthelens RLFC="Sthelens RLFC"Reina would start at any of the 3 clubs mentioned
Johnson would defintely get in Uniteds team and have a good shout of Arsenal or Chelseas
Gerrard would start at any of the 3 clubs mentioned
Mascherano would start for Arsenal
Torres would start at any of the 3 clubs.
So that's 3 that would walk into any of the other 3 teams. If we were doing a joint squad of the 4 teams, we would fill our share comfortably and could make a case for having 5 players in a hypothetical 18 man squad.
It's nothing to do with that though. It's the fact that United/Arsenal and Chelsea have better squad players than us. The likes of Agger, Benayoun and hopefully Aquilani are all good enough to be part of a championship winning side IMO but the likes of Aurelio, Degen, Babel, Riera, Kyriagkos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas (who has certainly been better this season), Ngog (currently) shouldn't be starting ANY crucial games for Liverpool.
All teams have poor players though. It's just that Liverpool seem to have more.'"
Sound logic, but slightly glosses over the issue. Yes, in a team made up from the 'big 4' you'd probably hold your own, but there's still a problem. You point out that 3 of your best 11 would get into those of your rivals, but the key issue there is the flip side; all of your title rivals have knocking on 8 players in their team who are better than yours. That's just a huge gulf.
In fact, extend it a bit. How many of your best 11 do you honestly think would crack the Spurs team? It's a closely run thing IMO, and they have better depth. That shouldn't be the case such a short time after them being relegation candidates and you topping the table.
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| Quote Sam Buca="Sam Buca"I dont think Arsenal have a great squad, they have players who play well but would struggle to get in anyother team apart from RVP and Fabregas.'"
Vermaelen, Clichy, Walcott, and Arshavin/Rosicky would all get in Liverpool's 11 IMO as well, and possibly Gallas too.
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| Quote Sthelens RLFC="Sthelens RLFC"Reina would start at any of the 3 clubs mentioned
Johnson would defintely get in Uniteds team and have a good shout of Arsenal or Chelseas
Gerrard would start at any of the 3 clubs mentioned
Mascherano would start for Arsenal
Torres would start at any of the 3 clubs.
So that's 3 that would walk into any of the other 3 teams. If we were doing a joint squad of the 4 teams, we would fill our share comfortably and could make a case for having 5 players in a hypothetical 18 man squad.
It's nothing to do with that though. It's the fact that United/Arsenal and Chelsea have better squad players than us. The likes of Agger, Benayoun and hopefully Aquilani are all good enough to be part of a championship winning side IMO but the likes of Aurelio, Degen, Babel, Riera, Kyriagkos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas (who has certainly been better this season), Ngog (currently) shouldn't be starting ANY crucial games for Liverpool.
All teams have poor players though. It's just that Liverpool seem to have more.'"
Sounds you have a lot of good individuals who need to play as a team. Or maybe it's the manager.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Vermaelen, Clichy, Walcott, and Arshavin/Rosicky would all get in Liverpool's 11 IMO as well, and possibly Gallas too.'"
Vermalen ahead of whom?
Walcott is vastly overrated.
Arshavin and Rosicky are pretty decent players, i'll give you that.
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| Quote Sam Buca="Sam Buca"Vermalen ahead of whom?
Walcott is vastly overrated.
Arshavin and Rosicky are pretty decent players, i'll give you that.'"
This season, Carragher. And from what I've seen so far he's quite possibly better than Skrtel and Agger as well. From this thread, it seems that many Liverpool fans are blind to how monumentally poor Carragher has been this season.
Walcott is overhyped I agree, but still a good player when fit. He's certainly a more dangerous player than Kuyt IMO, who aside from work rate doesn't offer a great deal to a top 4 side.
The thing is, before the season kicked off it was almost unanimously thought that Arsenal's was the top 4 place under threat from big-spending Man City, due to what people perceived as the weakest squad. As it's turned out, they're now looking stronger than last year's runners up whom they finished 14 points behind with just miniscule changes to their team. So is it Arsenal's players overachieving this year, or simply their emergence and Liverpool's overachievement last season?
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| Quote Sam Buca="Sam Buca"I dont think Arsenal have a great squad, they have players who play well but would struggle to get in anyother team apart from RVP and Fabregas.'"
What about Sagna? you not putting him in the squad!?
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Sagna
Vermalan
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Giggs
Drogba
Rooney
That would be my team made up of last season's top 4 on form this season so far.
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| Quote Dan_FC="Dan_FC"What about Sagna? you not putting him in the squad!?'"
I dont like Sagna, I think he can be caught out quite easily at times.
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