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| To be honest I wouldn't be surprised knowing Wakey if we won the next two games.
We have beaten Wigan well the last two seasons and they will be coming off the back of a tough cup game. We are also capable of beating Wire. These are the games we need to win to clinch the top eight then push on for the top four.
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| Quote newcat="newcat"To be honest I wouldn't be surprised knowing Wakey if we won the next two games.
We have beaten Wigan well the last two seasons and they will be coming off the back of a tough cup game. We are also capable of beating Wire. These are the games we need to win to clinch the top eight then push on for the top four.'"
Couldn't agree more, after those two we have Widnes at home as well, that's three very winnable games and it's not unreasonable to believe it's achievable hopefully, if's and but's I know but if we do then a top eight place more or less guaranteed with five games left.
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| Hudds will win there next 4 fixtures.
I cant really see any of the current bottom 4 getting into the 8 but maybe that`s just wishful thinking. Should Salford or Catalan pick up any sort of form we could be in the dog fight.
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| Quote homme vaste="homme vaste"Hudds will win there next 4 fixtures.
I cant really see any of the current bottom 4 getting into the 8 but maybe that`s just wishful thinking. Should Salford or Catalan pick up any sort of form we could be in the dog fight.'"
It's fair to say that Catalan have picked up some form. 3 wins from their last 4 is good going and the defeat that they had was away at Saints.
The coach that everyone loves to hate does seemed to have turned them around and I dont see them being in the bottom 4 after the split and our dire performances against Shudds seem to have given them a lift.
It could all get extremely tight at the bottom of the table and there will be twists and turns a plenty before the Super 8's.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"It's fair to say that Catalan have picked up some form. 3 wins from their last 4 is good going and the defeat that they had was away at Saints.
The coach that everyone loves to hate does seemed to have turned them around and I dont see them being in the bottom 4 after the split and our dire performances against Shudds seem to have given them a lift.
It could all get extremely tight at the bottom of the table and there will be twists and turns a plenty before the Super 8's.'"
No I don’t agree actually, Catalin have cobbled a few wins together against generally poor opposition. They might pull out of the bottom four who knows but to suggest they have found anything resembling real form is a bit rich imo.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"No I don’t agree actually, Catalin have cobbled a few wins together against generally poor opposition. They might pull out of the bottom four who knows but to suggest they have found anything resembling real form is a bit rich imo.'"
Mostly agree with that. They are definitely playing better than they were earlier in the season, but they have just beaten the two worst teams in the league on form. They also beat us a few weeks ago but we were really off colour that night. They do however have a run of fixtures that they will fancy themselves in now though. So it will be interesting to see how they get on.
I don't expect them to cause any issues for you guys though. Expect you will be safely in the 8. Probably 6th unless Leeds can find some answers pretty fast, they have been beyond terrible the last couple of weeks.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"No I don’t agree actually, Catalin have cobbled a few wins together against generally poor opposition. They might pull out of the bottom four who knows but to suggest they have found anything resembling real form is a bit rich imo.'"
Time will tell but, right now, they have the best form in the bottom half of the Table.
Beating Leeds and Hull FC at home, Salford away and getting close to Saints, no matter how injury ravaged any of those sides may be, is form that we would be delighted to have.
Of course, given their absolutely abysmal start to the season, they are still going to be a bit scratchy but since the addition of Drinkwater, they look like they will definitely avoid the bottom 4, something that looked impossible a few weeks ago.
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| Our hammering at Salford has proved to be a real game changer. That 2 points was priceless to Salford. It kept us both hanging in the 8 by a thread.
Ourselves, Salford and Widnes are currently the stand out strugglers.
I do believe that Shudds and Catalans have been flattered by the opposition they've faced recently.
Their cup tie looks like being are real dour struggle in front of a record low crowd for an all Super League game. Will watch it for a laugh though.
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| Quote Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Our hammering at Salford has proved to be a real game changer. That 2 points was priceless to Salford. It kept us both hanging in the 8 by a thread.
Ourselves, Salford and Widnes are currently the stand out strugglers.
I do believe that Shudds and Catalans have been flattered by the opposition they've faced recently.
Their cup tie looks like being are real dour struggle in front of a record low crowd for an all Super League game. Will watch it for a laugh though.'"
For the winner of that tie, it could be a poisoned chalice, an unwanted distraction from achieving super league survival, no rest weekends.
At the start of next season, I would take a first round exit in the cup to guarantee top 8 every time.
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| Quote TheMightyTrin="TheMightyTrin"For the winner of that tie, it could be a poisoned chalice, an unwanted distraction from achieving super league survival, no rest weekends.
At the start of next season, I would take a first round exit in the cup to guarantee top 8 every time.'" never heard so much tosh, might as well ditch the cup all together 
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| Quote snowie="snowie"never heard so much tosh, might as well ditch the cup all together
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The 'magic of the Cup has been destroyed, ever since they started seeding it.
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| Quote FickleFingerOfFate="FickleFingerOfFate"The 'magic of the Cup has been destroyed, ever since they started seeding it.'" I agree
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| Quote FickleFingerOfFate="FickleFingerOfFate"The 'magic of the Cup has been destroyed, ever since they started seeding it.'"
Fully agree. The lower seeded clubs will never get a chance to cause a major upset or have their moment of glory because they will be out before the big teams are even in.
I'm not a fan of Football but you can't deny there is still a certain magic associated with the FA Cup.
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| Quote snowie="snowie"never heard so much tosh, might as well ditch the cup all together
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So a question then, would you rather;
A. win the cup and be relegated to the championship (it has happened in football in recent times)
B. be knocked out of the cup in the early rounds and finish in the top 8
Im not saying I dont want to win the cup, obviously I would love that. But I dont want to win the cup if it comes at the expense of our super league place and all the consequent effects that may follow. Also FWIW my opinion is, grand final > challenge cup.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"How the hell is 7th meaningless, difficult but meaningless! give it a rest.'"
You really ought to read the post before rushing to have a dig. No where did I mention 7th place. 
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| Quote TheMightyTrin="TheMightyTrin"So a question then, would you rather;
A. win the cup and be relegated to the championship (it has happened in football in recent times)
B. be knocked out of the cup in the early rounds and finish in the top 8
Im not saying I dont want to win the cup, obviously I would love that. But I dont want to win the cup if it comes at the expense of our super league place and all the consequent effects that may follow. Also FWIW my opinion is, grand final > challenge cup.'"
or C win the cup of have a good run and still stay in the top 8 because I believe we have a squad this year that could do it,
Think I should I'll just have a word with the blue tits in my bird box to stay there until they become and adult before they try to expand their wings
just like to add whats your feelings now we are out of the cup, what if we now get in a dog fight and we go down
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| Quote snowie="snowie"or C win the cup of have a good run and still stay in the top 8 because I believe we have a squad this year that could do it,
Think I should I'll just have a word with the blue tits in my bird box to stay there until they become and adult before they try to expand their wings
just like to add whats your feelings now we are out of the cup, what if we now get in a dog fight and we go down'"
If it was a straight choice between progress in the cup and SL survival then, the all Trinity fans would opt for SL survival.
However, I'm with you Snowie, a cup run can lift everyone, from players, fans, management, not to mention the potential cash influx for the club and the rare chance to attract some more fans.
I know it's all if's and but's now. However, had we beaten Huddersfield in the cuo, there would have been every chance of winning the league fixture as well and far from "risking anything", perhaps we could have prevented Huddersfield from growing in confidence and kept them firmly in the bottom 4.
Instead of this, we threw "everything" at the magic game and still lost.
We shall never know if beating Huddersfield in the cup would have harmed our league position but, it doesn't look to have helped ??
I guess we have to trust the club management and in particular, Chester, to get things right, which, I suppose, is what he gets paid for.
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| Quote homme vaste="homme vaste"Hudds will win there next 4 fixtures.
I cant really see any of the current bottom 4 getting into the 8 but maybe that`s just wishful thinking. Should Salford or Catalan pick up any sort of form we could be in the dog fight.'"
Did you mean league fixtures? 
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| Hindsight is a wonderful thing but Huddersfield followed by Catalans was a wonderful chance to progress to a semi final.
I am not a fan of sacrificing the cup for the league or vice versa.
Huddersfield actually improved beating us twice but tonight Catalans worked them out and deserved their win
Why were we unable to do the same.
We just are not ruthless enough when the going gets tough.
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| if I was new to the game and seen the shudds v cat match for first time I'd doubt I've never watch another, personally I'm hanging in on hope they somehow make this game more entertaining,
its no wonder the crowds are leaving
that was one hell of a bore fest 
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| Quote snowie="snowie"if I was new to the game and seen the shudds v cat match for first time I'd doubt I've never watch another, personally I'm hanging in on hope they somehow make this game more entertaining,
its no wonder the crowds are leaving
that was one hell of a bore fest
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Watched it with a mixture of Yorkshire club fans. Very high intensity which made it exciting but skill levels were very low.
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| Shudds lost. Whats not to like.
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| Think the 'borefest' is more out of frustration, that we were that shat, that we couldn't beat Shudds but Catalan worked them out no problem and did what they had to do.
I think it's called 'game management'.
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| Quote FickleFingerOfFate="FickleFingerOfFate"Think the 'borefest' is more out of frustration, that we were that shat, that we couldn't beat Shudds but Catalan worked them out no problem and did what they had to do.
I think it's called 'game management'.'"
I wish that Trinity could have been in that borefest and made it into the semi final.
And Wembley certainly wouldnt be boring 
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| We'll see who was right then.
Catalan: buoyed by success in the cup go on to avoid the bottom 4
Huddersfield: no distraction of the cup go on to avoid the bottom 4
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