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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Why? 130 jobs in the area that weren't there before is pretty good.'"
At the planning application they referenced 1500 jobs
That was the original application and on the latest one for the changes. Talk about frugal with the truth!
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"At the planning application they referenced 1500 jobs
That was the original application and on the latest one for the changes. Talk about frugal with the truth!'"
Small mercies spring to mind here mate 
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"At the planning application they referenced 1500 jobs
That was the original application and on the latest one for the changes. Talk about frugal with the truth!'"
But that's not what the article states. I can't vouch as to how truthful the statement is but this is what it says.
'Wakefield Hub is a 200-acre scheme being delivered by Newmarket Lane Ltd; a joint venture partnership between HBD and Yorkcourt. One of the largest regeneration projects of its kind in the North of England, it is set to drive inward investment and create thousands of new jobs'.
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"At the planning application they referenced 1500 jobs
That was the original application and on the latest one for the changes. Talk about frugal with the truth!'"
Suppose they could've been referring to the jobs involved in the construction of the same.
Anyhow the main point of the post was to show that the forward funding could well be the money that has been deposited in the account for the new stand.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"But that's not what the article states. I can't vouch as to how truthful the statement is but this is what it says.
'Wakefield Hub is a 200-acre scheme being delivered by Newmarket Lane Ltd; a joint venture partnership between HBD and Yorkcourt. One of the largest regeneration projects of its kind in the North of England, it is set to drive inward investment and create thousands of new jobs'.'"
My god it’s blow own trumpet pal cos trinity have been robbed big time poor deal yc are laughing at us
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| Quote cosmicat="cosmicat"My god it’s blow own trumpet pal cos trinity have been robbed big time mickey poor deal yc are laughing at us'"
I once bought a KitKat and it only had 3 fingers in it!!
I have never forgiven, never forgotten.
I suspect something similar has happened to you in the past.
We should both resolve to "let it go" and move on.
It is what it is.
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| Quote cosmicat="cosmicat"My god it’s blow own trumpet pal cos trinity have been robbed big time mickey poor deal yc are laughing at us'"
You really are the very definition of the village idiot.
They are not my words, they are the words from the press release being referred to. I have no opinion either way on their validity. Get a grip.
Yeah pal you're right, they must be wetting themselves with joy having just handed over 8 million when they thought they were going to pay nothing, now why don't yo go off somewhere and talk to the trees. 
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| Quote cosmicat="cosmicat"My god it’s blow own trumpet pal cos trinity have been robbed big time mickey poor deal yc are laughing at us'"
But we get a stadium. Who cares if they are laughing?
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| And we get to stay at Belle Vue! That to me is pretty much priceless.
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| Quote charlie="charlie"And we get to stay at Belle Vue! That to me is pretty much priceless.[/
Double post…
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| Quote charlie="charlie"And we get to stay at Belle Vue! That to me is pretty much priceless.'"
Sometimes things that start out looking bad… end up being for the best… a redevelopment at Belle Vue would have always been at the top of my wish list but for decades that was just not viable… now … in 2022/23 it is
Better late than never
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"But we get a stadium. Who cares if they are laughing?'"
No we didn’t get a stadium we got a stand and a referb
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| Quote vastman="vastman"You really are the very definition of the village idiot.
They are not my words, they are the words from the press release being referred to. I have no opinion either way on their validity. Get a grip.
Yeah pal you're right, they must be wetting themselves with joy having just handed over 8 million when they thought they were going to pay nothing, now why don't yo go off somewhere and talk to the trees.
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They should have handed over 12 million not 8 that was in the original l106 agreement ! Are you mackies brother?
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| Building a modern East Stand with all the facilities that a professional sports club needs within it is a fantastic leap forward for the club. In the era stretching from 2001 to 2014 such a development was unthinkable, we were all more concerned with survival of the club due to financial mismanagement. Even when we felt safe from insolvency events we were almost always preoccupied with thoughts of relegation.
The new floodlights, the new Cats Bar roof, the purchase of the ground along with the former Super Bowl land have been major redevelopments, let’s not dismiss them as something minor.
As for what’s to come, I have mixed feelings about an artificial pitch, they’re not for me and despite advancements they still don’t compare with natural grass. Overtime they perform less and less like a real grass surface and despite upkeep they lose their aesthetic and begin to look worn.
Equally I’m ambivalent regarding the refurb of our North terrace, I’m delighted that we’re doing something to improve the terracing but Id have loved to see something more substantial and modern replace the roofing.
Once we have the new East Stand built, I hope we redouble our efforts to continue with the redevelopment of the ground. Something modern down the West Terrace and eventually something to replace the hospitality block.
I’m aware that I seem to contradict myself a little with being positive and realistic while also being a bit disappointed but,from what I can tell, I’m pretty typical of how many fans feel
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| Quote cosmicat="cosmicat"They should have handed over 12 million not 8 that was in the original l106 agreement ! Are you mackies brother?'"
What’s your name?
I ask because I’ve been involved in this since 2005 and I don’t remember anyone involved who is as ill informed as you.
So why do you seem to think you have so much knowledge, reveal yourself oh genius one. What meetings have you attended, which Councillors, developer’s, CEO’s etc have you spoken to?
None because you’re a fake with an obsession. One who never explains what could actually be done to force YC to build NM, as I say your a fraud.
For a start there never was a definitive cash amount YC just had to provide the build, the cost was down to them so long as it met the standard set. YC last estimate of costs was 17 million not 12, 12 is what we have now in total ffs.
So stop talking rubbish you are making a total fool of yourself and it’s not giving anyone any pleasure. You’re so far out of your depth on this it’s just tragic.
Oh yes I’m his brother, two pees in a pot me and Colin 
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"Building a modern East Stand with all the facilities that a professional sports club needs within it is a fantastic leap forward for the club. In the era stretching from 2001 to 2014 such a development was unthinkable, we were all more concerned with survival of the club due to financial mismanagement. Even when we felt safe from insolvency events we were almost always preoccupied with thoughts of relegation.
The new floodlights, the new Cats Bar roof, the purchase of the ground along with the former Super Bowl land have been major redevelopments, let’s not dismiss them as something minor.
As for what’s to come, I have mixed feelings about an artificial pitch, they’re not for me and despite advancements they still don’t compare with natural grass. Overtime they perform less and less like a real grass surface and despite upkeep they lose their aesthetic and begin to look worn.
Equally I’m ambivalent regarding the refurb of our North terrace, I’m delighted that we’re doing something to improve the terracing but Id have loved to see something more substantial and modern replace the roofing.
Once we have the new East Stand built, I hope we redouble our efforts to continue with the redevelopment of the ground. Something modern down the West Terrace and eventually something to replace the hospitality block.
I’m aware that I seem to contradict myself a little with being positive and realistic while also being a bit disappointed but,from what I can tell, I’m pretty typical of how many fans feel'"
Some good points.
Don’t forget the Cats bar will get re-purposed into a community HUB and as such a good revenue earner.
The floodlights combined with a 4G pitch offer a massive income.
I’ve spoken to a number of players and all are OK with the pitch at Dewsbury and I think ours will be a better one but fair point opinions differ.
I love the idea of the North stand. It has been designed in such a way that a better roof can be added later. Like all things the lightweight roofing solutions available now have improved greatly in ten years. For now though it will be a vast improvement for the faithful.
Whichever way you view it the bulk of the facilities at BV will be spot on in only 12 month time.
Worth noting also that the flats still offer loads of boxes and a resturant to add to what the new East stand offers. Even some of the newer stadiums don’t have the corporate capacity we will have. I believe the flats are getting a cosmetic upgrade at some point.
We even have some car parking space!
All in all it’s as you say a huge leap forward but I think you’ve unintentionally understated it. Just my opinion.
PS. There is a nice cheap fix available for the West stand also but one thing at a time.
PPS. Yes YC have stitched us but not totally, we ordered a Jacket but got a waistcoat but it’s a nice one 
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| Quote cosmicat="cosmicat"They should have handed over 12 million not 8 that was in the original l106 agreement ! Are you mackies brother?'"
There was no S106 agreement, and what we had didn't legally obligate them to do anything for a very long time, if at all.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"There was no S106 agreement, and what we had didn't legally obligate them to do anything for a very long time, if at all.'"
Long time ago but didn’t the SOS state that a 106 agreement should be but in place ..?
but Box/council didn’t see it as an obligation and decided not to … leaving a huge get out clause for the developer
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| Quote Spookisback="Spookisback"Long time ago but didn’t the SOS state that a 106 agreement should be but in place ..?
but Box/council didn’t see it as an obligation and decided not to … leaving a huge get out clause for the developer'"
We ended up with a Unilateral Undertaking which wasn't quite as watertight as a S106 that had so many holes it enabled YC to shaft us (and more pertinently the public of Wakefield) as much as they have for 10-12 years.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"There was no S106 agreement, and what we had didn't legally obligate them to do anything for a very long time, if at all.'"
I think there was in name only but you're probably right. Either way, at had no teeth and then Walker broke i's jaw just to make sure.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"What’s your name?
I ask because I’ve been involved in this since 2005 and I don’t remember anyone involved who is as ill informed as you.
So why do you seem to think you have so much knowledge, reveal yourself oh genius one. What meetings have you attended, which Councillors, developer’s, CEO’s etc have you spoken to?
None because you’re a fake with an obsession. One who never explains what could actually be done to force YC to build NM, as I say your a fraud.
For a start there never was a definitive cash amount YC just had to provide the build, the cost was down to them so long as it met the standard set. YC last estimate of costs was 17 million not 12, 12 is what we have now in total ffs.
So stop talking rubbish you are making a total fool of yourself and it’s not giving anyone any pleasure. You’re so far out of your depth on this it’s just tragic.
Oh yes I’m his brother, two pees in a pot me and Colin
'" sure I called a fraud previous,who are you? You’ve had more warnings then saddam Hussain you won’t bully me pal ever !!
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| Quote cosmicat="cosmicat"sure I called a fraud previous,who are you? You’ve had more warnings then saddam Hussain you won’t bully me pal ever !!'"
Ok I’ll end this.
Whatever.
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| Sad to see an old well established tree being removed, but I’m reliably informed that the large tree behind the East stand has been felled today. Another small step towards the new stand being erect.
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"Sad to see an old well established tree being removed, but I’m reliably informed that the large tree behind the East stand has been felled today. Another small step towards the new stand being erect.'"
Yes there's a picture on facebook showing it being cut down
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"Sad to see an old well established tree being removed, but I’m reliably informed that the large tree behind the East stand has been felled today. Another small step towards the new stand being erect.'"
Don't suppose you know what they are doing with the logs do you?
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