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| Quote Borderboy="Borderboy"Hope you mean the temporary seats and not the long standing east stand members Khlav!'"
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"To me the East Stand hardly ever seems full. May be wrong but 500 should be more than adequate. In addition it would be worth keeping them there after the refurb too.'"
It will cut out a lot of access and storage space so I can't see them keeping it.
And to be honest, if we need it, we didn't do the new stand correctly.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"It will cut out a lot of access and storage space so I can't see them keeping it.
And to be honest, if we need it, we didn't do the new stand correctly.'"
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| I’ve just had a more detailed look at the plans and I have to say there’s a lot more going on than I thought. This development will bring about some fantastic facilities and make the club far more attractive to players and fans.
I didn’t realise that the corner building where the rolling shack is will be pretty much gutted out and many interior walls knocked through to create a large gym over two floors alongside changing facilities and a room to run classes in. That will be a huge advantage to have these facilities for players especially and will make the club appear more professional.
The north stand appears to be having a platform to the rear. I wonder if this is to incorporate a few drinks/bars etc to try and maximise some sales in that stand. Would make sense. With new barriers and new crisp surfacing it will transform the north stand.
There’s so much going on in the main stand and on the plans it looks very impressive.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"I’ve just had a more detailed look at the plans and I have to say there’s a lot more going on than I thought. This development will bring about some fantastic facilities and make the club far more attractive to players and fans.
I didn’t realise that the corner building where the rolling shack is will be pretty much gutted out and many interior walls knocked through to create a large gym over two floors alongside changing facilities and a room to run classes in. That will be a huge advantage to have these facilities for players especially and will make the club appear more professional.
The north stand appears to be having a platform to the rear. I wonder if this is to incorporate a few drinks/bars etc to try and maximise some sales in that stand. Would make sense. With new barriers and new crisp surfacing it will transform the north stand.
There’s so much going on in the main stand and on the plans it looks very impressive.'"
The Rollin shack (Cats Bar), is to be renamed as. Community Hub. As far as I am aware the Gym, Cafe, on the top floor, Male & Female changing/ Shower rooms lower floor, with office and retail space, is for the general public and community groups. I’m not sure if the players will have use of the gym facilities, unless there are certain days and time when not open to public.
The North Stand concourse is for refreshments, but I’ve not yet seen details of the proposed outlets. I would imagine the club will provide more precise details of the proposed layout of North Stand and East Stand in the
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"The Rollin shack (Cats Bar), is to be renamed as. Community Hub. As far as I am aware the Gym, Cafe, on the top floor, Male & Female changing/ Shower rooms lower floor, with office and retail space, is for the general public and community groups. I’m not sure if the players will have use of the gym facilities, unless there are certain days and time when not open to public.
The North Stand concourse is for refreshments, but I’ve not yet seen details of the proposed outlets. I would imagine the club will provide more precise details of the proposed layout of North Stand and East Stand in the
near future.'"
It would be strange for the club to have a gym in its stadium and not have use. I suppose we will have to see how it works with it being open to the community.
I would hazard a guess there may be a few ‘bottle bars’ at the back of the north stand with a limited selection of snacks and perhaps a hot drinks stand. Whatever they have I would hope they have card machines/contactless. People rarely carry actual money these days and it would maximise any sales. That’s good news though that we have a space at the back which can be used to generate more income!
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| This new stand, and North renovation, should really give the club the boost it so badly needs.Hope rampant inflation doesn't affect too much with the build.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"It would be strange for the club to have a gym in its stadium and not have use. I suppose we will have to see how it works with it being open to the community.
I would hazard a guess there may be a few ‘bottle bars’ at the back of the north stand with a limited selection of snacks and perhaps a hot drinks stand. Whatever they have I would hope they have card machines/contactless. People rarely carry actual money these days and it would maximise any sales. That’s good news though that we have a space at the back which can be used to generate more income!'"
I think most people are forgetting about the Fan Zone. This is an area behind the new Stand at the North end. I’m not sure exactly what will be provided, but I’m sure food and drinks will be on offer as well as other activities for the younger fans. HKR have recently set up something similar, and it seems quite popular.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"It would be strange for the club to have a gym in its stadium and not have use. I suppose we will have to see how it works with it being open to the community.
I would hazard a guess there may be a few ‘bottle bars’ at the back of the north stand with a limited selection of snacks and perhaps a hot drinks stand. Whatever they have I would hope they have card machines/contactless. People rarely carry actual money these days and it would maximise any sales. That’s good news though that we have a space at the back which can be used to generate more income!'"
On the plans for the Rollin Shack there's the gym and cafe upstairs and a weights room downstairs.
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| Stadium Redevelopment Update – Delivery Plan Submitted
6TH JUNE 2022
Wakefield Trinity are delighted to announce a further significant milestone in their plans to redevelop the Be Well Support Stadium at Belle Vue.
Following the signing of the S106 agreement in March 2022, the club, together with their advisors, have been working on a detailed Delivery Plan. This plan covers the detail of design, costings, funding and build timetable and is required to be submitted to Wakefield Council under the terms of the S106 agreement.
Despite the significant challengers presented by the effects of Brexit, pandemic and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine which have resulted in spiralling inflation in many of the commodities required to achieve the redevelopment, we are pleased to announce that, working closely with our proposed main contractor, Morgan Sindall Construction, we submitted the delivery Plan just ahead of the Jubilee Bank Holiday weekend. We now look forward to approval of the Plan by Wakefield Council in time for demolition and construction to start after the home game against wigan on 3 July 2022.
Chairman John Minards said
“I am personally thrilled that we have reached this important stage in our plans. Michael and I would like to thank all those who have worked so hard to help us reach this point. These include director Rodger Lambert as well as advisors; Turner and Townsend, Addleshaw Goddard, AFL Architects, Nolans, CPH, Pegasus Group and the club’s legal advisors Williams & Co.”
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"Stadium Redevelopment Update – Delivery Plan Submitted
6TH JUNE 2022
Wakefield Trinity are delighted to announce a further significant milestone in their plans to redevelop the Be Well Support Stadium at Belle Vue.
Following the signing of the S106 agreement in March 2022, the club, together with their advisors, have been working on a detailed Delivery Plan. This plan covers the detail of design, costings, funding and build timetable and is required to be submitted to Wakefield Council under the terms of the S106 agreement.
Despite the significant [uchallengers[/u presented by the effects of Brexit, pandemic and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine which have resulted in spiralling inflation in many of the commodities required to achieve the redevelopment, we are pleased to announce that, working closely with our proposed main contractor, Morgan Sindall Construction, we submitted the delivery Plan just ahead of the Jubilee Bank Holiday weekend. We now look forward to approval of the Plan by Wakefield Council in time for demolition and construction to start after the home game against wigan on 3 July 2022.
Chairman John Minards said
“I am personally thrilled that we have reached this important stage in our plans. Michael and I would like to thank all those who have worked so hard to help us reach this point. These include director Rodger Lambert as well as advisors; Turner and Townsend, Addleshaw Goddard, AFL Architects, Nolans, CPH, Pegasus Group and the club’s legal advisors Williams & Co.”'"
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| Quote phe13="phe13"Ay up Dunk, I assume that you copy/pasted the above. It's the word 'challengers', implying people/organisations challenging, that seems strange. Hopefully it should have been written as 'challenges'.
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Don't think any clubs share their gym facilities with the general public but may be wrong. However, a gym at a ground totally for use by the public is unusual and very welcome. I'm not sure how it will be run or what the pricing structure will be but I suspect it helps justify the Council's financial involvement both now and in the future.
For me, the financial support of the Council will be vital going forward, most notably when developing the South stand. So the more people we can get using the 'HUB' which would otherwise be dead space most of the time is vital. Doesn't matter if those using BV are fans or not, just matters that they are using it.
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"Stadium Redevelopment Update – Delivery Plan Submitted
6TH JUNE 2022
Wakefield Trinity are delighted to announce a further significant milestone in their plans to redevelop the Be Well Support Stadium at Belle Vue.
Following the signing of the S106 agreement in March 2022, the club, together with their advisors, have been working on a detailed Delivery Plan. This plan covers the detail of design, costings, funding and build timetable and is required to be submitted to Wakefield Council under the terms of the S106 agreement.
Despite the significant challengers presented by the effects of Brexit, pandemic and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine which have resulted in spiralling inflation in many of the commodities required to achieve the redevelopment, we are pleased to announce that, working closely with our proposed main contractor, Morgan Sindall Construction, we submitted the delivery Plan just ahead of the Jubilee Bank Holiday weekend. We now look forward to approval of the Plan by Wakefield Council in time for demolition and construction to start after the home game against wigan on 3 July 2022.
This is fantastic news for the club and the fans.
3rd July is almost here and although there may be some emotional scenes when the East Stand gets demilished, it's long, long, long overdue.
Exciting times for all involved
Chairman John Minards said
“I am personally thrilled that we have reached this important stage in our plans. Michael and I would like to thank all those who have worked so hard to help us reach this point. These include director Rodger Lambert as well as advisors; Turner and Townsend, Addleshaw Goddard, AFL Architects, Nolans, CPH, Pegasus Group and the club’s legal advisors Williams & Co.”'"
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Not sure if it's relevant or not but Barnsley FC had an indoor pitch built at a cost of £2.5 million, not sure who has one now but at the time the only other club in the world what had one was FC Barcelona (just thought I'd get that in for redcat) anyway the club rent out the facilities to the public you can only imagine that would be for financial reasons, and used only when the club aren't using them.
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Up the Trin'"
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Just had a look on planning portal.
Latest documents entered a few days ago. Can the well informed on here explain what this means.thanks
Discharge of condition 29 (Community Use Strategy) from approved application 20/02587/FUL. | Belle Vue Stadium Doncaster Road Wakefield WF1 5EY
Click onto documents (3) tab top row
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary
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Latest documents entered a few days ago. Can the well informed on here explain what this means.thanks
Discharge of condition 29 (Community Use Strategy) from approved application 20/02587/FUL. | Belle Vue Stadium Doncaster Road Wakefield WF1 5EY
Click onto documents (3) tab top row
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary
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Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"Just had a look on planning portal.
Latest documents entered a few days ago. Can the well informed on here explain what this means.thanks
Discharge of condition 29 (Community Use Strategy) from approved application 20/02587/FUL. | Belle Vue Stadium Doncaster Road Wakefield WF1 5EY
Click onto documents (3) tab top row
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary'"
Can't quite make it out of my phone, but the planning permission will have conditions attached, and it looks like we've tried discharging one of them, Sports England have 3 weeks to respond to the document submitted.
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Latest documents entered a few days ago. Can the well informed on here explain what this means.thanks
Discharge of condition 29 (Community Use Strategy) from approved application 20/02587/FUL. | Belle Vue Stadium Doncaster Road Wakefield WF1 5EY
Click onto documents (3) tab top row
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary'"
Can't quite make it out of my phone, but the planning permission will have conditions attached, and it looks like we've tried discharging one of them, Sports England have 3 weeks to respond to the document submitted.
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| This letter of support from ARTS CULTURE AND LEISURE CONSULTATION RESPONSE arrived on the planning portal today (17th June)
Eaglestone, Michael
Subject: FW: Trinity Comm agreement
From: Russell, Julie <jrussell@wakefield.gov.uk>
Sent: 16 June 2022 18:26
To: Heaton, Paul <paulheaton@wakefield.gov.uk>; Eaglestone, Michael <meaglestone@wakefield.gov.uk> Cc: Lynam, Mark <mlynam@wakefield.gov.uk>; Romic, Mika <MRomic@wakefield.gov.uk>
Subject: Trinity Comm agreement
Dear all,
In response to the Trinity application and community access agreement I have the following supportive comments, if your agreeable I will issue these to the planning email address too:
The community access agreement has been developed over a number of months, and the club has engaged the Council’s relevant officer’s in the process.
The community access agreement clearly defines a baseline, and ambition to increase the hours of usage on the site from a range of ‘professional’ club teams, and wider community and foundation users. This is then articulated into a value back to the community which is a positive figure.
The hours of usage have then be fleshed out, with a clear appendix of the breadth of teams and users, allowing both unique users per year and the total touch points to be estimated appropriately, and transparently.
The ambitions, and approach to usage appear in keeping with the nature and type of the facilities, and the club has engaged the relevant governing body and partners in discussions to develop the usage approach. This should mean the targets are ambitious but not too ambitious or unaffordable.
The approach to pricing policy, and wider equalities strands looks positive to ensure that the offer welcomes and supports participants and users of all age, gender, faith and no faith, disability and neuro disability.
The approach with a review committee, in which the WMDC is represented is supported and a positive approach to supporting the investment to make a difference to the community of Wakefield District.
Physical activity levels in the district remain low and any developments which aim to improve access and increase physical activity are supported by the Council.
This development will support the overall ambitions of the district playing pitch strategy and health and wellbeing strategy.
Thanks J
Julie Russell
Service Director: Arts, Culture and Leisure
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| I’ve heard recently that the original plans for the new stand had been amended, but I’ve not seen any amendments plan on the portal as yet.
However I’ve noticed recent documents including this WAKEFIELD TRINITY - DELIVERY REPORT
Very interesting read, and shows the club is contributing £1.8 million towards the redevelopment. I say well done MC,JM and whoever else has managed this.
As I’ve stated, this is a tiny section of the document, plenty of information regarding redevelopment.
The Project will be funded (in majority part) by a S106 contribution and further grant funding from Wakefield Council via its Sports Resilience Fund
together with private funds from Spirit of 1873 Ltd.
Section 106 Agreement. Agreement
£8,800,000
Wakefield Council Sports Resilience Fund £2,000,000
Spirit of 1873 Ltd £1,800,000
Total £12,600,000
Construction Programme
Morgan Sindall have prepared the programme for the project, and this is included in Appendix E. Construction commences with enabling works on 4th July 2022 with construction completion in July 2023.
The project is following the advice set out in the Sports Ground Safety Authority Green Guide and thus practical completion will be latest 13th
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"I’ve heard recently that the original plans for the new stand had been amended, but I’ve not seen any amendments plan on the portal as yet.
However I’ve noticed recent documents including this WAKEFIELD TRINITY - DELIVERY REPORT
Very interesting read, and shows the club is contributing £1.8 million towards the redevelopment. I say well done MC,JM and whoever else has managed this.
As I’ve stated, this is a tiny section of the document, plenty of information regarding redevelopment.
The Project will be funded (in majority part) by a S106 contribution and further grant funding from Wakefield Council via its Sports Resilience Fund
together with private funds from Spirit of 1873 Ltd.
Section 106 Agreement. Agreement
£8,800,000
Wakefield Council Sports Resilience Fund £2,000,000
Spirit of 1873 Ltd £1,800,000
Total £12,600,000
Construction Programme
Morgan Sindall have prepared the programme for the project, and this is included in Appendix E. Construction commences with enabling works on 4th July 2022 with construction completion in July 2023.
The project is following the advice set out in the Sports Ground Safety Authority Green Guide and thus practical completion will be latest 13th
October 2023 following the testing and certification required.'"
I'm guessing that is the pitch, roof on old clubhouse and the floodlights and maybe a few smaller items. So some of that has already been spent with only the pitch to pay for. Might be wrong.
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I hope we haven't paid for it all yet. Paying that much up front before a spade has been picked up is not good.
Do you mean 'allocated' when you say spent?
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Do you mean 'allocated' when you say spent?'"
No I mean we've paid for the floodlights and the roof repairs to the clubhouse already. What amount that is I don't know but I'd guess 500k. The pitch and the lights were not part of the 106 but are part of the re-development, hence their inclusion. Both had to be done regardless as far as I'm aware, so there was no need to wait, the pitch didn't..
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