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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"By training and playing while fit to do so. In what way do you think he's failed to fulfil them, and why do you imagine he's still an employee if he hasn't?'"
Because in today's PC world you can't question mental illness, the degree to which someone might be mentally ill or their capacity to work while mentally ill. While I have no idea what Gleeson's situation is the club are not helping by saying at first its a stress related illness then calling it compassionate leave, these are two completely different things.
I just hope the club are regularly in contact with him, have taken their own medical advice and have set a timetable for his treatment and return to work. People are saying that we should treat mental illness like physical illness, well if he had a broken leg he would have a treatment schedule and a timetable to return.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"By training and playing while fit to do so. In what way do you think he's failed to fulfil them, and why do you imagine he's still an employee if he hasn't?'"
My point about Long was that , OK he's not the captain now but he was employed as a leader and his off the field influence was bigged up almost as much as what he was going to do on it. That being the case his duties in my view are wider than just the average squad player. One imagines he hasn't taken a pay cut whilst unable to play so why aren't we as an organisation making the best out of a bad job and using his influence , experience etc. I'm not blaming him or expecting him to suddenly have become a dyed in the wool FC supporter but I do think we should have used his time and our money better. Either we've just not bothered or his contract didn't reflect the role spun to us and he's working to the letter of it.
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| Quote ChrisH="ChrisH"My point about Long was that , OK he's not the captain now but he was employed as a leader and his off the field influence was bigged up almost as much as what he was going to do on it. That being the case his duties in my view are wider than just the average squad player. One imagines he hasn't taken a pay cut whilst unable to play so why aren't we as an organisation making the best out of a bad job and using his influence , experience etc. I'm not blaming him or expecting him to suddenly have become a dyed in the wool FC supporter but I do think we should have used his time and our money better. Either we've just not bothered or his contract didn't reflect the role spun to us and he's working to the letter of it.'"
Is it possible that a decision has already been made that he's not getting a new contract and as he won't be playing again this season he's been told its not necessary for him to attend work?
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| Quote Nobeerineasthull="Nobeerineasthull"Is it possible that a decision has already been made that he's not getting a new contract and as he won't be playing again this season he's been told its not necessary for him to attend work?'"
he is still getting paid, he should be attending work.
he was bad news from the minute we signed him, and has only heaped more troubles on the club.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"he is still getting paid, he should be attending work.
he was bad news from the minute we signed him, and has only heaped more troubles on the club.'"
Aren't those two sentences a bit contradictory? If he's bad news, why do you want him turning up for work?
I was merely hypothosising that if he's going he could in effect be on garden leave and that, for whatever reason, the club dont want him around on a day to day basis.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"he is still getting paid, he should be attending work.
he was bad news from the minute we signed him, and has only heaped more troubles on the club.'"
So he should be attending work while on compassonaite/sick leave????/
I was off for 12 weeks last yr and on full pay and was told to keep away from work.....wheres the difference?
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| Quote fc baldy="fc baldy"So he should be attending work while on compassonaite/sick leave????/
I was off for 12 weeks last yr and on full pay and was told to keep away from work.....wheres the difference?'"
were you re-employed in the same industry having being released for "personal reasons" by a previous employer a fortnight before?
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| I remember someone being off with stress in my first job around 25 years ago. No one had ever heard of stress related illnesses at the time so our boss sent him a fruit cake to cheer him up. How times have changed
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| Quote Standee="Standee"were you re-employed in the same industry having being released for "personal reasons" by a previous employer a fortnight before?'"
So he has a full medical and passes that...we know he has issues as the club looked into it.....so your saying he shouldnt have the same benefits as the other players or should he do a 13 week trial to become permanent member of the team and then get his full benefits.
We signed a world class centre who was available and its not worked out so far...we are supporting him through his problems...personally cant see anything wrong with this...you just have a agenda about this and its a bit pathetic if you ask me.
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| Quote fc baldy="fc baldy"you just have a agenda about this and its a bit pathetic if you ask me.'"
fair enough, you think what you want.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"fair enough, you think what you want.'"
I do thanks.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"I remember someone being off with stress in my first job around 25 years ago. No one had ever heard of stress related illnesses at the time so our boss sent him a fruit cake to cheer him up. How times have changed'"
How did he react when he answered the door to you ?
Only kidding mate 
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