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| Quote ="UllFC"First point is an interesting one as I imagine a HullFC starting salary is actually decent given that wages generally are very low in the city. So add in the kudos of as you say 'walking around with the club gear on' and it becomes a lazy career choice (albeit a short term one that could end when the contract ends)
I've not seen anything from Gardiner or Jebson to suggest they are worth sticking with, usually with a young player with a few games you see if they are up to it or not.'"
There's been an element of this with our young players for a number of years, possibly even decades!
We're actually reasonably decent in producing youngsters who end up in the first-team via our youth/academy/development set-ups, youngsters who initially look promising with everyone having high hopes for them.
The problem for us, and this is where we differ from Wigan/Saints/Leeds, is that all too often they never seem to quite kick-on to become genuine SL quality standard players and after a while they seem to lose their way and end up gradually drifting out of the picture. We have a number of young players going back many years who seem to fall into that category.
The key age for young promising sports people is around 18-22, which is the age when you have to make the full transition from junior sport to full-time professional. I think, in general, there tends to be a very large drop-off in juniors who make the grade across all sports. It's those organizations that get it right more often when dealing with promising 18-22 year-olds that tend to be the more successful within their sport, chiefly Wigan/Saints in RL.
I'd agree with other posters that success in developing any promising 18 year-old is likely to be key if we are to compete at the top end again on a regular consistent basis. The likes of Moy, Charles, Barron and, particularly, Lewis Martin look like they may possibly be the real deal, but the next two years are vital in their development if they are to become stand-out fully fledged SL players.
Fingers crossed, with the new regime and far more professional coaching set-up now in place, these young kids will come through, but it's far from a given as we have witnessed too many times in the past. Here's hoping for at least a couple of wins for us in this department in the coming two years or so.
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| [urlhttps://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/clubs-prepare-salford-red-devils-9764574[/url
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| Players I would be looking at, I’ve tried to be somewhat realistic with who might come:
Chris Satae - non quota, would add impact off the bench. At his age and his love for Hull should be good value for a year.
Matthieu Laguerre - Rogue but probably a step up on chamberlain and still a good age.
Arthur Mourgue - Mourgue & Abdul/Jack Charles would probably suit going forward. Some question marks over his best position. Don’t think he will leave cats
Paul Séguier - would be a steady squad player who can play back or front row. I’d argue he’s better than Holmes & Lane.
Mikołaj Oledzki - think he’s carried Leeds pack and a fresh start would do him wonders. Would be a good partner for Herman.
Liam Byrne - Herman & Oldedzki with Byrne & Ashworth off the bench would have fantastic balance.
Connor Wrench - young, pace and probably better than all our centre options.
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| Looking at the domestic players Salford have and the areas we are looking to bolster i'd take Watkins and Bullock.
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| Some young kids with FC bloodlines signed up
"Bobby Hewitt, son of former Hull FC half-back Mark Hewitt, Cameron Windley, son of former Hull FC back Johan Windley, and Isaac and Jacob Last, the twins of former Hull FC hooker and current assistant coach Andy Last."
We also have Richard Horne's son and Feka's son.
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| The Last boys are meant to be pretty good
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"The Last boys are meant to be pretty good'"
Good job it’s not “The lost boys”, they’d only be able to play night matches but Grandad Tony could exorcise them I’ll get my coat.
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Some good names on this list, you can assume a fair few will stay at their current clubs, however there's certainly an abundance of good forwards to chance our arm on. The level of funds going to be made available suggests these are the calibre that'll be on our radar. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... rs-9777212
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Some good names on this list, you can assume a fair few will stay at their current clubs, however there's certainly an abundance of good forwards to chance our arm on. The level of funds going to be made available suggests these are the calibre that'll be on our radar. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... rs-9777212
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| Think we need two domestic forwards and probably an overseas forward.
I'd look at Byrne, Batchelor and Toby King.
Add in a overseas forward or centre.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Think we need two domestic forwards and probably an overseas forward.
I'd look at Byrne, Batchelor and Toby King.
Add in a overseas forward or centre.'"
I’d be looking at
Front row - Bryne Oledzki & Lees. Byrne and Oledzki are somewhat realistic and would give us a very good front row.
Back row - Batchelor & Segier (cover for front & back row).Batchelor & Cartwright would be a finish our pack off
Centre- Wrench & Laguerre. Both better than what we have. Wrench could be a very good long term player who could play wing or Centre.
Utility - Mourgue. Jury still out on him but think he’s got a spark.
Not one quota player which would free up the ligi quota for a top Centre
Priorities got to be
2 Props
1 Back row
2 Centres
Winger depends on Barron & Martin progress
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| Harvey Livett is apparently available.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Harvey Livett is apparently available.'"
He'd go well at Wigan
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| Connor Wynne to rovers
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Connor Wynne to rovers
[urlhttps://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-kr-plot-move-ex-9781354[/url'"
Imagine being a young kid coming through and seeing them sign him and Lee Kershaw to block your path
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| Grudge just wants a team of ex fc players
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire7"Grudge just wants a team of ex fc players'"
There are any number of ex-fc players (2023/24 vintage especially) I wouldn't mind seeing trot out over there They would be very welcome to them.
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| Wynne is an unfortunate one for Hull because I think he’s got the ability to be top class, he has the footwork to be a very good centre if he goes to Rovers and they get a few injuries he could be a gem.
If he does do well it’s a different scenario to the likes of Abdull and Litten IMO in which you could question the way the club handled them, Wynne obviously needed the kick up the Harris getting the boot from Hull gave him to really knuckle down as a pro, I’m sure he’s admitted as much publicly.
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| Quote ="DSJ1983"Wynne is an unfortunate one for Hull because I think he’s got the ability to be top class, he has the footwork to be a very good centre if he goes to Rovers and they get a few injuries he could be a gem.
If he does do well it’s a different scenario to the likes of Abdull and Litten IMO in which you could question the way the club handled them, Wynne obviously needed the kick up the Harris getting the boot from Hull gave him to really knuckle down as a pro, I’m sure he’s admitted as much publicly.'"
Getting pally with Reynolds wasn't a good move for him, on paper an ex state of origin player taking a young player under their wing sounds great but Reynolds was here for a holiday, I don't think I've seen an overseas player do so much sightseeing!
I thought Wynne always tried hard on the field, it's just attitude off it that was his undoing. Wouldn't surprise me to see him sucessful in SL if he's sorted his head out.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Harvey Livett is apparently available.'"
I'm not sure on Livett, looked good when he first came on the scene, but has gone little for ages. Is he better than Lane, Holmes and Cartwright, I'm not sure.
Be ok as a squad signing, but I'd be looking at any new signing enhancing the 17, I'm not sure he does that.
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| Would rather give Staveley and Kirby game time if injuries bite, especially Staveley he's got everything in his locker to be a first team regular.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'm not sure on Livett, looked good when he first came on the scene, but has gone little for ages. Is he better than Lane, Holmes and Cartwright, I'm not sure.
Be ok as a squad signing, but I'd be looking at any new signing enhancing the 17, I'm not sure he does that.'"
Agree, we have also got to be careful that bringing in stop gap signings doesn't limit our ability to sign big money players in 2026/2027.
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| The only signings we should be looking at is a prop or a centre, Holmes, Lane, Jeddars, got Staveley, Kirby and Sao at a push to play 2nd row, sorted at 13, 9, 6/7, wingers and full back IMO for depth.
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| We need a PROP now !!!!
Simple as that
Then we have always needed a
Beast of a centre
Fast Big and a try machine
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| Agree that we should be targeting a prop and centre.
We don't need Livett with Staveley and Kirby plus Lennon Clark is impressing in training too i've been told.
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