Well at least we put in an 80 mins performance today.. Shame it was all shiote.

We're awful but London are still bottom. If they finish bottom they deserve to be relegated, as do we if we finish bottom but that's not the rules this year.

If Cartwright gets Abdul fit, then we're gonna have a top drawer player there.



Everyone knows how taleanted rugby league player there is in Abdul is, but it's always been about his fitness with him.



Of course, it won't just be down to Cartwright, Abdul has to play his part.

On the other hand we have an owner with no money, who has made consistently bad decisions and is seemingly out of ideas.



Our lease is up on our stadium in a few years with no alternative ground to move to.



We assume there is new investment by things that have happened recently but details kept in the dark because the club only talk to us when they have new merchandise to flog to us.



Even if Cartwright Snr and Asiata are amazing it may come too late as the floodgates have opened and fans are drifting away. I no longer have confidence in Pearson, 2 good seasons in 12/13 owning the club isn't good enough.

looking at the hull team,i thought were will the points come from,we have a team,with no brains or ballplayers in the forewards and no flair or speed in the backs.pearson has to be to blame,no relegation and he wanted to save money.far more effort should have been made to replace the quota players we binned.we still have an hooker playing 7.pearson has been spouting about marquee signings,hes been spoting for weeks about the same and nothing.looking like last summer all over again,we were told we were after a top aussie halfback and ended up with nu brown.we need rid of carlos,fash,sao,lane at the very least.dead wood with nothing to offer.

If Cartwright gets Abdul fit, then we're gonna have a top drawer player there.



Everyone knows how taleanted a rugby league player there is in Abdul, but it's always been about his fitness with him.



Of course, it won't just be down to Cartwright, Abdul has to play his part.

Radford, Peters and McNamara have all tried and failed, why will it be different this time?

Like I said, let's wait and see.



Cartwright's main point was that his team are gonna be fit. So that's the only hope I'm clinging to.



But a fit Abdul is gonna be a very good player. So right now I'll cling to that hope.

I'm not waiting and seeing anymore at this club, years and years of disappointment and enough is enough

Not sure, if/when we finish bottom maybe.



I didn't watch the game live today and have scrolled through the recording. Entirely as expected, a disjointed performance by a team that look like they barely know each other (in fairness that's partly true) - our passing remains diabolical.



Unless Cartwright is some sort of magician I just don't see a material improvement next year, but I'm pretty ambivalent about it, wasted a fair bit of angst on these since 2018 so just resigned to more of the same. They say it's the hope that kills you, so perversely having no hope at all makes the relentless huge defeats easy to accept.

Even in a disastrous day for us, I have to mention that Lewis Martin keeps showing even better glimpses of talent game on game. He seems to be getting more confident each game I see in s team that has no confidence. Some blistering running from him today. Cutting through them like a thoroughbred. He's still only a puppy.

Completely agree.

Does he stick around if we continue to be poor and Wigan/saints/Warrington come calling?

On behalf of all Leigh fans i want to thank you for taking Tom (hands like cows tits) Briscoe and Ed (can’t pass won’t pass can’t tackle won’t tackle) Chamberlain off our hands.

What a massive disappointment. Sums up the season really. Rudderless, disjointed, no leaders or creativity. Makes me more glad we’ve signed experienced players.



Martin continues to improve, as does Barron - who I’d previously written off, so fair play to him.



Why oh why didn’t we start a hooker at 9? He starts Charles at 7 and Moy at 1, why not Balmforth at 9? Still can’t help but think Grix as it in for him for some reason.



Once we were with Charles at 1, Smith the only half and Lane at 9 we were done for. We had no problem getting to their line, but absolutely no clue how to get over it. I really do think if we’d have kept Reynolds we would have won a few more games, especially those tight losses a few weeks back and maybe even today with Walker at 6.



Anyway, ifs and buts. The team is a show which is thankfully being sorted out. Less than half of the 17 today should be in the starting 17 next season.

Rovers fanboy Matthew Shaw sticking the knife in with relish in the HDM. It's brutal but he's just saying what most of us believe.

The London coach was totally the opposite

showed his passion and annoyance all match

What could have made a difference is when London were looking tired after 30 minutes he should have brought Balmforth on.

When Walker went off why move players around when all he had to do was move Briscoe to full back.

Resting Moy was a bad decision.He is not injured

He will be otherwise thats another we have to pay off

Agree with this. I’ve always had the impression he doesn’t really care. Very quick to blame the players not ‘sticking to the plan’ and ‘not being brave’. This might be the case, but maybe playing players in their actual positions, rotating players properly, and showing some genuine emotion wouldn’t go a miss - like you say, sometimes even a bit smirky.



I think it screams that he’s not part of our plans and he’s just seeing his job through. It’s a free shot for him and it shows. Surely if he was going to be a big part of the set up next season he would be in regular comms with Cartwright just like Myler? A few txt messages isn’t that.

yet most on here said rest him for this game

Whats the odds on a knee jerk signing next week?

Dreadful, simply dreadful, no other words for it really.



I know the loss of Carlos and Walker meant an ad-hoc reshuffle to the side in the first half, but think it was irrelevant, even with them on the pitch it would have made no difference to an abject woeful display which ranks as bad as anything we have witnessed these past seven years.



We look, unfortunately, like exactly what we are; a low-quality side packed full of low-quality players, whose confidence is totally shot after a series of relentless defeats, de-motivated, unenthused and lacking in conviction, being overseen by a coaching set-up which hasn't a single clue about how to change the situation.



It can't even be dismissed as yet another bad performance within a year which has spun out of control. Seven years of endless mistakes and errors of judgment by a plethora of individuals have brought us to this situation. If the people concerned had set out to deliberately destroy our club I doubt they could have made a better job of it than the one they have carried out since 2017. All concerned should hang their heads in shame at their part in the systematic dismantling of a once great club.



I have been a supporter since 1975 (I guess for some it's even longer than that), the club has brought me many happy memories and some great days , as well as some distressing and disappointing ones alongside the good times, but right now, for the first time in all those years, I feel ashamed and embarrassed to be a black and white. I have never felt this low about our great club, even when we were a second division outfit in 96-97. At least then I felt there was some hope for a future, but tonight I am struggling to find even a flicker of hope to cling onto.



We are in a mess the like of which most of us have never seen in our lifetimes.

Something will definitely leak

About 60 points next week