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| Quote MR BOJANGLES="MR BOJANGLES"Well if his case isnt going to court until 2 months into the new season whats so wrong with 'innocent until proven guilty' and if fit use him ?'"
The phrase 'if fit' is the crucial one. He isn't currently, and maybe the prognosis is that he won't be match fit until around the time of his court case. There may also be other factors in play that are not in the public domain.
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| Quote Nobeerineasthull="Nobeerineasthull"If he has gone, then in the new spirit of openness and communication with the fans, is there any prospect of an official announcement from the club any time soon?'"
The club may not have finalised anything yet. And they will have to be very careful of releasing any statement that might conceivably impact on his impending court case. Better to say nothing until everything is cut-and-dried and run past the legal team.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"The club may not have finalised anything yet. And they will have to be very careful of releasing any statement that might conceivably impact on his impending court case. Better to say nothing until everything is cut-and-dried and run past the legal team.'"
He has denied the allegations against him and is of course innocent until proven guilty. However I think we all know the club is likely to sack him if he is convicted and certainly if he is sent down.
His April trial date has been known since September. What has happened since then to change things? Is there something else we don't know about, as alluded to by The Brother?
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| Quote Nobeerineasthull="Nobeerineasthull"He has denied the allegations against him and is of course innocent until proven guilty. However I think we all know the club is likely to sack him if he is convicted and certainly if he is sent down.
His April trial date has been known since September. What has happened since then to change things? Is there something else we don't know about, as alluded to by The Brother?'"
Believe me nothing has been sorted with Raynor at the moment and nothing will be before April. Actually the club are being as supportive as they can.
Obviously the club will have reason to offload him if the worst happens but why make problems for themselves whilst the guy is still innocent.
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| Quote MR BOJANGLES="MR BOJANGLES"Believe me nothing has been sorted with Raynor at the moment and nothing will be before April. Actually the club are being as supportive as they can.
Obviously the club will have reason to offload him if the worst happens but why make problems for themselves whilst the guy is still innocent.'"
I don't think this rumour is all to do with his impending court date, I believe it's been the way he has conducted himself in pre-season. I believe he may have been a silly boy once again.
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| Quote Smiggs="Smiggs"I don't think this rumour is all to do with his impending court date, I believe it's been the way he has conducted himeself in pre-season. I believe he may have been a silly boy once again.'"
Doing what ?
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| Quote MR BOJANGLES="MR BOJANGLES"Doing what ?'"
I don't know the details but some on here do.
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| Still think he's a good player and would leave us very short in backs if he went , if he is fit then might aswell use him till April ,
Think some people just change their opinion of him because they think he might be going
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| Quote hullandbroncos="hullandbroncos"Still think he's a good player and would leave us very short in backs if he went , if he is fit then might aswell use him till April ,
Think some people just change their opinion of him because they think he might be going'"
Ability never been in question for me, application yes, he lets himself down way too often and has had enough chances on a test players wage time to part ways for me, on top of his injuries aswell a luxury we can't afford to carry imo
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| Quote The Brother="The Brother"Ability never been in question for me, application yes, he lets himself down way too often and has had enough chances on a test players wage time to part ways for me, on top of his injuries aswell a luxury we can't afford to carry imo'"
You could say every player let themselves down last year so why is he any different ?
He cant do much at the moment he is injured !!
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| Quote MR BOJANGLES="MR BOJANGLES"You could say every player let themselves down last year so why is he any different ?
He cant do much at the moment he is injured !!'"
When your on a good behaviour order for a year, thats exactly what it means you have to be whiter than white(no pun intended)  no fall foul of the law within months publicly, plus any internal matters he has done as well
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| If he is fit and available for selection then he should be selected (Dont know anything about any other problems?) If he is found guilty then he should be sacked and sent on his way. None of this "served his time so he should be allowed to play for us bollox either". Yes we lose a player and yes he may get picked up by another club but we need to be strong on these things and send a message to our current players and any future players that illegal activities that have a negative impact on the club will not be tolerated under any circumstances.
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| Quote The Brother="The Brother"When your on a good behaviour order for a year, thats exactly what it means you have to be whiter than white(no pun intended)
no fall foul of the law within months publicly, plus any internal matters he has done as well'"
I agree the club wont be happy about the unwanted extra publicity come April but when you say other internal matters what kind of things are these ? What can he have done already during this pre season training considering he aint even training !!
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| Quote MR BOJANGLES="MR BOJANGLES"I agree the club wont be happy about the unwanted extra publicity come April but when you say other internal matters what kind of things are these ? What can he have done already during this pre season training considering he aint even training !!'"
Not saying this is the reason, but missing training, late for training, not attending club duties, etc there was a code of conduct laid down to the entire squad at the backend of last season as to what is expected with them regards conduct, even during the pre season this has again been discussed wit coaching staff, board members and even a legal reprensative been in to talk to the players to make them aware of what sort of conduct will constitute gross missconduct etc, so raynor and everyone else have been given fair warning imo, step out of line see ya 
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| Quote The Brother="The Brother"Not saying this is the reason, but missing training, late for training, not attending club duties, etc there was a code of conduct laid down to the entire squad at the backend of last season as to what is expected with them regards conduct, even during the pre season this has again been discussed wit coaching staff, board members and even a legal reprensative been in to talk to the players to make them aware of what sort of conduct will constitute gross missconduct etc, so raynor and everyone else have been given fair warning imo, step out of line see ya
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Oh well he's maybe even sillier than first thought !!
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| Quote The Brother="The Brother"Not saying this is the reason, but missing training, late for training, not attending club duties, etc there was a code of conduct laid down to the entire squad at the backend of last season as to what is expected with them regards conduct, even during the pre season this has again been discussed wit coaching staff, board members and even a legal reprensative been in to talk to the players to make them aware of what sort of conduct will constitute gross missconduct etc, so raynor and everyone else have been given fair warning imo, step out of line see ya
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Sadly I have to say your pretty spot on there Brother!
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| Quote The Dentist Wilf="The Dentist Wilf"Sadly I have to say your pretty spot on there Brother!'"
Also sends out a message to the rest of the squad, there will be no more 2nd,3rd,4th chances and more this time around
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| Quote The Brother="The Brother"Also sends out a message to the rest of the squad, there will be no more 2nd,3rd,4th chances and more this time around'"
Agar must be quaking in his boots.
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| Quote 3DaysGrace="3DaysGrace"Agar must be quaking in his boots.'"
Are you trying to say that Agar has broken the code of conduct or just been sarcastic?
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| Quote chico's nose="chico's nose"Are you trying to say that Agar has broken the code of conduct or just been sarcastic?'"
He's no idea which!!!!!!! 
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| Quote chico's nose="chico's nose"Are you trying to say that Agar has broken the code of conduct or just been sarcastic?'"
Can't you recognise sarcasm? Agar should have gone with the other underachievers.
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| Quote 3DaysGrace="3DaysGrace"Can't you recognise sarcasm? Agar should have gone with the other underachievers.'" Thy're on about code of conduct not underachieving.
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| Quote 3DaysGrace="3DaysGrace"Can't you recognise sarcasm? Agar should have gone with the other underachievers.'"
Agreed especially when there was a coach available of Noble's track record.
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| Quote rugbyman_1865="rugbyman_1865"Agreed especially when there was a coach available of Noble's track record.'"
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