Here we go another one that has no real argument so he resorts to name calling. If you don't like an opposing opinion I suggest you stay away from forums.

We have done our time in the NL mate and we put it together on the field and got promoted, something which Widnes seem incapable of doing.

Lock it and ban these morons.

dehell i dont see what your trying to achieve in all this, your only making yourself look pathetic. The decision wont be made by you or any of us so it's pointless going on. The current rules as they are now suggest Wakefield are one of a number of clubs that could drop down are your going to have to deal with that if it happens.





Widnes will always be a bigger club than Wakefield.

I've stated both opinions (barrow before widnes) and facts (franchise points).



Regarding our tax debt (or ex debt) that has nothing to do with franchise points but it doesn't stop you bringing it up as a way backing your ridiculously weak opinion up.

Sounds like someone can't handle the truth

What truth? your getting boring and keep getting away from the fact that your own club is in difficulty.

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This explains a lot.

Go back to troll school.

If your a bigger club than us how come were in the ELITE division and your in CRAPPY division.1

You cant educate pork.

Jog on you idiot.Your very boring now so go annoy some children seen as your a child.Your no bigger and a disgrace to most decent wakey fans, who are decent people.

Oh let's just wait and see what happens come licence time.Wakefield fans need not shat themselves because they are certs,especially with another new stadium looming.Aren't they?

Think you are right Mr Deehell THE TRUTH HURTS.

Just figured out who you pair are

What will you be like if you went bust and lost everything?Ended up going down as lose franchise?I would not come on trolling giving wakey abuse.You just a child and that is life.Come trolling when you are as big as leeds,wigan or saints.If want abuse your a small team in leeds.

Tax debt does count on the franchise just as Widnes' adminstration did. FACT. You financial behaviour will be accounted.

And that's speaking from your own personal experience.

Not really , just having a normal new years eve , as for your home truths , there is only two



A club will be moving up from the Championship to SL in 2012 , at the moment that club will be either Widnes,Barrow or Fax



If SL is not expanded then a club currently in SL will be dropping out , at the moment that club will be either HKR,Cas,Wakey,Salford or the Crusaders

He had to be in bed by ten Starbug.

Point 2 is all you really need to worry about.



The RFL have said that a club from SL will be relegated in 2012 to make way for a Championship club. So those clubs you mention are the clubs you are competing with, and not Widnes. Starbug has tried to point this out to you.



We are competing with Halifax, Barrow, Leigh, Fev and Toulouse. Comparing Widnes against Wakey is totally pointless. So I would suggest you go on the boards of Cas, Bradford, Salford and Hull KR, and try to convince them that wakey are wonderful and that they have no god given right for a SL place, as this sort of thing seems to make you feel better about the future of your club for some reason.

I'm embarrassed reading these posts by deeHell and stantrin and i'm not even a Widnes fan (I'm not Dalton, honest

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It's cringeworthy. Just to bring everyone up to a level of sanity may i suggest that these two (or the same user) probably don't represent true Wakefield fans or indeed any Rugby League fan. I'm confused as to why deeHell has suddenly popped up on your board. My conclusion has to be the paper thin announcement about his club's "new stadium" and is privately picking as many holes in it as the rest of us. This board is just a vent to release the frustration of a last ditch attempt by his club to survive in SL. I'll repeat their general managers words at the time of the last round of franchises:

=#0000FF"But certainly for the next franchise bid in three years we will need to be in or at least very close to opening the doors of a new stadium"



Personally speaking, I think Wrexham will struggle and fall. I think Widnes will replace them. Will another club be also ready to move up a league? I doubt it - much to the relief of those clubs who haven't fulfilled their Licence credentials. Wakefield are one of those clubs. FACT (as deeHell succintly puts everything).

I have noticed that some of the fans of clubs at risk of dropping out of SL in the next round of licences are attacking Widnes, and its fans, on the VT. They put forward any Championship club they can think of, that clearly aren’t ready, as an alternative, in the full knowledge that their club would stand up better against them than they actually would against Widnes. One fan even suggested Whitehaven would be a better club to promote.





Things seem to be getting pretty desperate out there, and I think we’ll see a lot more of this kind of thing over the next couple of years.

Vikingman and Solderboy.

At least we can sit tight and keep our heads down with the club working towards it's goal. Let these desperado's cry all they want. We know we're firmly on course for 2012 and there is nothing the few whinging fans of at risk clubs can do about it other than spew their futile nonsense on messageboards.



Keep it coming suckers.