Noo I wasn't.

You've had similar attendances previously in SL, yes you're a bigger town but its not by much (Nowhere near twice the size, look it up chief) really when comparing to the bigger areas, see below.







Not really, we're 5 times bigger than Castleford as an area and 4 times bigger than you, this is more the angle i was coming from when I said there wasn't much difference in size.

I don't really see why you took such exception to my comparison, I think you're probably misinformed by the size of the two towns.

Yes, it’s not twice the size, but Widnes is significantly bigger than Castleford.

Castleford - Population: 37,525



Widnes - Population: 53,410



That’s a difference of 15.885



What you completely fail to understand is the reality of Widnes drawing support from it’s entire borough. I wrote this earlier in the thread:









Could you please expand on that?



Because, as you have now read, we draw from a population of 114,662. There’s the fact, unlike Castleford, we have no competing clubs to the south or west. That gives us a free reign in much of Cheshire, Wirral, South Liverpool and even North Wales.



I’m sorry, but you are seriously deluded if you think you have that kind of potential. Your time spent in SL has allowed Castleford to build a good, stable fan base – good on yer. However, I would suggest you are close to saturation point for RL in your area, and only major success could improve your fan base significantly any further. If Widnes had been able to sustain their SL place, we would be miles ahead of Cas now imo. Hull KR were regarded as a small club a few years ago. Within three years, they have already left Cas behind.





It wasn’t so much the size of our respective towns that bothered me, but the use of the same old, uniformed, platitudes made about Widnes and clubs in the lower division. None of them ever hold true.



In my opinion, if Widnes get a licence in 2012, and we have even a modicum of success, we will also pull away from Cas. When the RFL then choose to drop heartland clubs again, and that will happen, Cas will be one of the first clubs to go imo.



Without a new ground, I'd stake my house on it.

First thing's first, how dare you associate me with a yorkshireman; I'm from Warrington



I agree almost completely with what you're saying, if you read my post again I said the opinion in past tense and went on to say that although Widnes itself is a small town you've got fingers in many pies.

At the moment they are fingers because as i've said on the VT someone ought to get towards chester and in the suburbs south of runcorn there's very little RL played, I have a few mates in those areas who had to travel to Widnes to play.

I have a slight objection with your statement regarding Cas as due to the size of the town they obviously draw from a bigger area, they've GOT to, no way 20% of the population turn out to watch them and so populations arent THAT important, regardless you're both significantly smaller than warrington which was the point I drew on and why I put you in a similar bracket in that respect, we obviously disagree.

IIRC they (Cas) try to draw more from the south (i think) and i genuinely feel they will get the new stadium and it will be wakey first of the two but both will be preceeded by Salfords exit imo



I did state that my old opinion was wrong and that I could see you going on to do very, very well.

(not as well as us though)

A Wire!



I might have guessed





What's the population of Warrington - 180,000?



You do know we get an awful lot of supporters from Warrington to don't you?





Penketh and Sankey are particularly fertile areas.





Cas have my upmost respect, and always have, but they are limited in a way we are not. Expansion*zis alway talk about potential and catchment areas, while completely ingoring what even some heartland clubs have. Double standards are the very nature of their arguements. Personally, I think it's all bullsh*t anyway.

AKA Little Widnes.

I prefer not to frequent those parts of town: The scouse accent gets to me like no other...

well thats funny cause iv got a warrington accent via burtonwood,and ive watched widnes for 36 years and not a hint of scouse in my accent mucker

i also live in sankey.

I can vouch for that!

Not the little corner that will forever be part of Halifax...



That said, the game on Boxing Day, are tickets available via the shop near Asda beforehand, or is it but on the day at the ground?

U can get tickets at the shop and i assume they will also be available from the club on the day....

Never!!!! Penketh always has and always will be Black and White!

You can purchase tickets from the ground at 12 onwards on match day.



Any other time just pop into the club shop next to the Asda.