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| Quote J20="J20"As said earlier your two years behind fella! It's pointless debating that talk as we all ate were we are, like it or not!
Peoe said same thing about SL playoffs but now you get no mention of league leaders being real 'champions' etc!'"
Yeah I agree. This has been flogged to death now.
Enjoy your off season  (sorry had to have one last dig lol)
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| Quote Gary High="Gary High"Pepe you are only as good as your last performance mate
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And your point is?
Because within the context of this discussion, it is pretty meaningless – childish crowing aside, of course.
Quote Gary High="Gary High" You are correct. However things have changed for the worse haven't they ? '"
Yes
Quote Gary High="Gary High"You see Dickie and his cronies were supposed to be making the game stronger and stopping clubs going to the wall.
Has their ridiculous master plan worked ? No !
Has England beaten the Aussies ? No were further away than ever !
Have more clubs needed bail outs or gone into administration ? Yes
Have the heartlands been ignored in the name of expansion ? Yes
Sounds like this whole Franchising lark has been a massive success doesn't it ?
This could go on forever. I disagree with the whole kiss Redhall's butt thing but heyho thats how they want it !'"
And you are blaming Widnes for all this are you? 
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| Quote Pepe="Pepe"And your point is?
Because within the context of this discussion, it is pretty meaningless – childish crowing aside, of course.
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[size=200And you are blaming Widnes for all this are you[/size?
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No. Dickie and his cronies !
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| Quote Gary High="Gary High"Yeah I agree. This has been flogged to death now.
Enjoy your off season
(sorry had to have one last dig lol)'"
But all you are doing is making yourself look foolish. 
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| Quote Gary High="Gary High"No. Dickie and his cronies !'"
Then why are you haranguing Widnes fans about it? 
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| Quote OFFTHECUFF="OFFTHECUFF"I think this topic needs to be locked,as i think you need to go to school.Your on a Widnes forum and nobody agrees with you.You are like a broken record you numpty.
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Brilliant that, just brilliant. Well done !
The school line was mine..........get your own !
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| I know I started this but its deffo time to end this one. Sadly promotion and relegation has gone, current rules there's only one club who deserve to go up and thats Widnes, whether we will or not is still open for debate but the games now moved on and I think so should we.
Good luck to all the remaining teams in the play off's, personally I would like to see Fev win it as they have been the best team in the comp all year.
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| This makes me laugh.
What most of these numpties don't realise is that if we returned to proper promotion and relegation the situation would be very different. In fact it would massively favour those teams with the best resources and the most money as they would buy the best players and retain full-time squads.
Now let me think, which club have the most money and the best resources in our division?....
The salary cap holds teams like Widnes back in a P & R system and it would be silly to have a system where you promote teams based on results yet with squads costing 1/4 of those that of the league that they would be going up to. The cap is that low that effectively a team with a couple of hundred fans and a semi-rich person could fund a route up to Super League.
This would be real nonsense, so a salary cap and P & R don't go. Without a salary cap and P & R, Widnes would buy their way into SL. With a salary cap and without P & R, Widnes don't top the league but are the best ran club with most youth players in their squad and get into SL that way.
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| Quote Gary High="Gary High"I will say it again WIDNES WILL BE THE WORST TEAM EVER TO GAIN A SL FRANCHISE AS THEY HAVEN'T WON ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT'"
What did London Broncos, Gateshead Thunder or Catalans Dragons win?
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| Quote Maximus Decimus="Maximus Decimus"What did London Broncos, Gateshead Thunder or Catalans Dragons win?'"
Petrololium Sour Grapes.
Ignore these jealous folk, and let them linger down in abyss that is Championship Rugby. We're just lucky that S'OC doesn't have an addiction to Betfred.
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| Comments like that post are exactly why soome fans of other clubs would like to see widnes fall on their @rses.
It may well end up an abyss....
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