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| Quote charlie caroli="charlie caroli"For me unfortunately you guys are in just to make the numbers up, no disrespect but I can't see you winning a game,whatever the Angelic Cynic thinks,still never mind.'"
Thanks.
We like being underestimated. 
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"
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Also,we really,really,like the whole world and its mother backing all our opponents,especially the governing body representatives who were involved with our first opponents when 'iconic' Odsal was saved [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/9490230.RFL_s_surprise_swoop_to_buy_Odsal_Stadium/In The Interests Of The Wider Game[/url
[url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/post/solly-expecting-big-things-from-the-bullsSolly[/url
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| Yes it was a surprise to me that the RFL didn't step in and buy Don Valley to help the Eagles to carry on playing in Sheffield -they have after all supported the development of the game in Englands 5 th largest city fairly consistantly over the years - consistantly poorly that is.
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| Quote Angelic Cynic="Angelic Cynic"Also,we really,really,like the whole world and its mother backing all our opponents,especially the governing body representatives who were involved with our first opponents when 'iconic' Odsal was saved [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/9490230.RFL_s_surprise_swoop_to_buy_Odsal_Stadium/In The Interests Of The Wider Game[/url
[url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/post/solly-expecting-big-things-from-the-bullsSolly[/url'"
Hi Angelic, that article was subsequently proven to be dripping with untruths. There never were any vultures as the ground was already owned by the BMDC with an RL covenant on it. What later emerged was that the RL had secretly loaned Peter Hood £700k without insisting on a shareholders meeting or even a basic audit and at the time of the sale of the lease the Bulls had not made one single repayment. The RL effectively seized the lease to secure its debt and made the various attempts at rescuing the club from administration almost impossible.
Why they lent money to Hood who was utterly inept, is one of the great uncovered scandals of RL. The RL should have bought the Don Valley stadium though and put a similar amount of effort in as they did in South Wales in my view.
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| Don Valley was a dead duck. Nobody in their right mind would have bought it as it would never make any money. It was a terribly designed stadium, and after the World Student Games (what it was built for), there was simply no afterthought as to what on earth the city of Sheffield was going to do with this white elephant.
I'm just hoping now that work begins on the new ground soon.
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| Quote Hillsborough Lad="Hillsborough Lad"Don Valley was a dead duck. Nobody in their right mind would have bought it as it would never make any money. It was a terribly designed stadium, and after the World Student Games (what it was built for), there was simply no afterthought as to what on earth the city of Sheffield was going to do with this white elephant.
I'm just hoping now that work begins on the new ground soon.'"
Well said.

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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"The RL should have put a similar amount of effort in as they did in South Wales in my view.'"
Hi M@islebugs,
I recall reading your articulate posts during the saga involving the RFL,various owners,administrators etc.plus the announcements and wondering why the same assistance was not given to Wakefield.
With regard to South Wales that particular crime also had RFL fingerprints and a smoking gun - not only the parachuting in of Brian Noble and Jon Sharpe - who,when he left,was given a nice new job at the RFL - but the former in-house RFL solicitor Rod Findlay also had a position at that club.
I do wonder if the RFL troubleshooters,led by Steve Ferres,were responsible for finding the replacement owners for Leighton Samuels and they uprooted the club from Bridgend to Wrexham and then handed the club over to individuals even the soccer fans warned against.
Anyway,I think they say follow the team forget the regime.( Or similar.)
I hope your new signings fail to be moulded into a successful side for the first Qualifier and the outrageous partisan statement from Blake Solly comes back to haunt him - a bit like the final administrator - [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29819/bradford-bulls-new-owner-confirmedThis Wilson Fella[/url
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| Quote Hillsborough Lad="Hillsborough Lad"It was a terribly designed stadium, and after the World Student Games (what it was built for), there was simply no afterthought as to what on earth the city of Sheffield was going to do with this white elephant.'"
It's a bit unfair to say that Don Valley was "terribly designed" and there was "simply no afterthought what ... Sheffield was going to do". It was designed the way it was because those were the requirements of the World Student Games, with the field events area between the main stand and the finishing straight. The intention was that that it would then be used as the main northern athletics stadium, taking over from Gateshead which had much poorer facilities. Unfortunately that was not the way that the British athletics establishment decided to go, so there was no attempt to build up an athletics fan base which would have justified the 25,000 capacity (again a requirement of the World Student Games). Even though the spectator facilities were good enough to handle 50,000 plus crowds for the Stones etc., it was clearly not an ideal stadium for rugby.
The new proposals are much more realistic, so here's looking forward to a decent run in these qualifiers, a good full time season in 2016, and qualification for Super League in our nice new stadium in 2017.
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| Quote Peteagle="Peteagle"so here's looking forward to a decent run in these qualifiers, a good full time season in 2016, and qualification for Super League in our nice new stadium in 2017.'"
I shall have to give a counter-argument.
Who is to say that the RFL will not haul up the drawbridge after this campaign,should their favourite clubs be promoted/retained and they then invent a new Licensing criteria?
I am reminded that there is no time like the present and that tomorrow never comes.
On another forum there is a suggestion that some of our players do not wish to be full time and will be leaving the club.Getting promoted for them should be a great incentive.
There is nothing to suggest that 2 of the Super League clubs are/will be solvent ( going into the future ).
If something similar to [url=http://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12212/8879775/featherstone-rovers-ready-for-super-league-if-london-broncos-foldThis Is Mooted[/url it would be nice to finish as high up the Qualifiers table as to be eligible.
Would struggling at the bottom of the league ladder assist in higher attendances in the first year at a new stadium?
Apart from that - while Saints are fighting back - I don't want to be at Odsal and have to endure Robbie Hunter Paul getting on the PA at half time and bragging about how many points he thinks the Bulls should score in the 2nd half,as he did earlier in the year. 
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| Quote Angelic Cynic="Angelic Cynic"I shall have to give a counter-argument.
Who is to say that the RFL will not haul up the drawbridge after this campaign,should their favourite clubs be promoted/retained and they then invent a new Licensing criteria?
I am reminded that there is no time like the present and that tomorrow never comes.
On another forum there is a suggestion that some of our players do not wish to be full time and will be leaving the club.Getting promoted for them should be a great incentive.
There is nothing to suggest that 2 of the Super League clubs are/will be solvent ( going into the future ).
If something similar to [url=http://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12212/8879775/featherstone-rovers-ready-for-super-league-if-london-broncos-foldThis Is Mooted[/url it would be nice to finish as high up the Qualifiers table as to be eligible.
Would struggling at the bottom of the league ladder assist in higher attendances in the first year at a new stadium?
Apart from that - while Saints are fighting back - I don't want to be at Odsal and have to endure Robbie Hunter Paul getting on the PA at half time and bragging about how many points he thinks the Bulls should score in the 2nd half,as he did earlier in the year.
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Quote Angelic CynicWho is to say that the RFL will not haul up the drawbridge after this campaign,should their favourite clubs be promoted/retained and they then invent a new Licensing criteria?
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I can see modifications being added to the new format,which are obvious. As for favourite clubs,you do your talking on the field of play.If you can't compete with that,then why look for a scapegoat of an excuse.
Quote Angelic CynicOn another forum there is a suggestion that some of our players do not wish to be full time and will be leaving the club.Getting promoted for them should be a great incentive.'"
Only if the full time wages are bigger than they are currently employed/self employed on. Would you take a wage cut?
Quote Angelic CynicThere is nothing to suggest that 2 of the Super League clubs are/will be solvent ( going into the future ).'"
Doesn't look to have happened with the Bulls or the Broncos this season..Still going strong.
Quote Angelic CynicWould struggling at the bottom of the league ladder assist in higher attendances in the first year at a new stadium?'"
Thats one for you..
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| Have to agree with atomic. Some players edging towards the end of their careers aren't going to be interested in signing full time. It all depends on your personal circumstances and you have to weigh up all the factors.
On the other hand, you never know what's round the corner. we had a player leave the club in 1996 because he had a very well-paid local authority job. He joined another club, part-time. A few months later, the Council gave him the Spanish Archer. 
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