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| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Sep 2017 | Sep 2017 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | has the time now come for the rfl to have a re-think re their policy on shiny new stadia being key to a franchise. by my reckoning and i am open to correction, this is the present set up...
 bulls  ground not owned    poor facilities
 cas    owned                    poor
 catalan   not sure about tenure    good
 hull    shared                          good
 kr       owned                         poor
 hudds    shared                      good
 leeds     shared                       good
 london          not sure                poor
 saints      owned                     good
 salford    owned                        good
 wakey   owned?                     poor
 wigan     shared                       good
 wire         owned                    good
 widnes     owned                      good
 
 so if only teams who own their own up to standard stadium can play in sl then ignoring championship sides it would be a 4/5 team comp.
 as bad news seems to get more media exposure than good news, compare for instance, salfords new ground to bradford going bust,to rangi being suspended to salford needing investment, the last three got more column inches and tv and national radio coverage, i believe the time is right for a change in policy.
 lets stop    forcing clubs to spend money they dont have to build new stadia which they cant half fill(salford) and make financial stability the number one priority, ground improvements etc would surely follow as a result of this.
 the product on the field has to be the main attraction to fans and sponsors not a poor product in a partially full new shiny stadium waiting for the next club to go bust.
 
 
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| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Jun 2014 | Mar 2014 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | I am sure that Saints, Widnes,Warrington and Salford's ground are owned by the council.  Wakefield's definitely is.
 
 
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        | Rank | Posts | Team |  | Player Coach | 1200 | London Broncos |  | Joined | Service | Reputation |  | Mar 2009 | 17 years |  |  
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Nov 2023 | Jul 2022 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | London's ground is owned by Quins RU. Not sure how you work out that a 12k all seater stadium is poor though?
 
 
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| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Sep 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | bulls - lease owned by RFL - pay rent
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 leeds - owned
 london -  owned by Quins RU (as above) - pay rent
 saints - owned
 salford - pay rent
 wakey - pay rent - owned by B.O.I
 wigan - pay rent
 wire - council owned - pay rent
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| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Nov 2012 | Nov 2012 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | I was going to type out a lengthy post once again stating all the fundamental faults behind the RFL Franchise dream, but at the moment it seems to be speaking for it's self loud and clear.  But, is anybody really that surprised at what is happening to the game?
 
 
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| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Dec 2012 | Nov 2012 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | Quote the_grobs="the_grobs"I was going to type out a lengthy post once again stating all the fundamental faults behind the RFL Franchise dream, but at the moment it seems to be speaking for it's self loud and clear.  But, is anybody really that surprised at what is happening to the game?'" 
The words "RFL and rethink" are an oxymoron and don't go together, a bit like "Vegetarian Meatball" or "Working Holiday". Who was checking Bradford's finances when licences were awarded? | 
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 catalan - pay rent
 hull - council owned - pay rent
 kr - owned
 hudds - pay rent
 leeds - owned
 london -  owned by Quins RU (as above) - pay rent
 saints - owned
 salford - pay rent
 wakey - pay rent - owned by B.O.I
 wigan - pay rent
 wire - council owned - pay rentwidnes - council owned - pay rent'"
 
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Well a team running two sets of books wouldn't be a first.  Didn't one of the NRL teams do that the other year to mask a thing or two?? | 
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Melbourne Storm got busted for that a year or two back.  They were stripped of 3 Minor Premierships, 2 Grand Final wins and a WCC win.  Bradford can give back their 10th place finishes over the last three years!!! | 
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No, it definitely isn't!
 
In other news - Castelford fan in stadium criteria rethink shock! | 
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 In other news - Castelford fan in stadium criteria rethink shock!'"
 
Belle View was owned by the Bank of Ireland who, I believe have since sold on to a developer for housing. | 
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