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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Nope, that would be impossible, they predated the creation of Israel.'"
Israel was first formed in 11th century BC not 1948 if you take history as written. |
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| Quote rover49="rover49"Israel was first formed in 11th century BC not 1948 if you take history as written.'"
Those guys are even worse! I hate long ago peoples with their ancient ways.
Though without getting into that debate i did mean prior to the modern state of Israel |
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Those guys are even worse! I hate long ago peoples with their ancient ways.
Though without getting into that debate i did mean prior to the modern state of Israel'"
I know, just practicing my pedantry, it seems to flourish on here.  |
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| Quote rover49="rover49"My mind must be playing tricks on me, but according to most news reports rockets came from Gaza FIRST and continue to be fired into populated areas of Israel, you cannot blame Israel for having better technology, unless of course you feel a dead Jewish kid is not as important than a dead Arab kid. I feel for the innocent Palastinians, but they voted these nut jobs in KNOWING what they would do. If my neighbour kept throwing stones into my garden when my grandkids were in it, I would sooner or later jump over the fence and knock the crap out of him.'"
I think [iall[/i kids lives are important, unlike quite a few on here.
I'm also in Hedon today so I might try lobbing a few stones over your fence, just to see if your 'all mouth and no trousers'. |
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Nope, that would be impossible, they predated the creation of Israel.'"
Give over, they are new houses, for recently-moved families, built using Israeli government cash. |
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There is to be a ceasfire at 7pm tonight. Hopefully it'll last and get the two sides together and sort something out.
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Give over, they are new houses, for recently-moved families, built using Israeli government cash.'"
You forgot the bit about the recently bulldozed Palestinian houses to create the space.
Another helpful map:
Full size link [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Westbankjan06.jpgHERE[/url |
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Belief seems to be your business so I'm afraid I can't help you.'"
I honestly have no idea what you're going on about.
Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"There you go again fixing the scales in order to perfectly balance unequal weight. Only in Koshland (the irony!) can the suffering of the very few equal the suffering of the many. No one in his right mind would dream of suggesting the Native Americans were EQUALLY as bad as the settlers because they occasionally attacked civilian outposts before they were all but exterminated as a race. Ditto the South Americans facing the conquistadors.'"
Only one of us is living in a fantasy land of our own creation, and only one of us has even [imentioned[/i equality of suffering. I'll give you a clue - it isn't me.
And your analogy with events in North and South America sucks. The events aren't even remotely comparable for a whole variety of reasons and even making the attempt indicates you basic lack of comprehension.
Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"I'm sure Israel understands the range and effects of nuclear weapons. After all, it built them and I very much doubt they sit targetless in their silos or wherever they are.
In any case - you're fighting an uphill battle convincing anyone of Netanyahu's committment to nuclear safety whilst he's currently calling for strikes upon Iran's entire nuclear development program (the fallout from which will likely irradiate two continents to some lesser or greater degree).'"
Once again you miss the point by a country mile. Who even mentioned a commitment to 'nuclear safety'? Or even that there were no circumstances under which nukes would be used? My point was that the geographical proximity of Gaza makes it just as unlikely a target for a nuclear strike as the West Bank.
Anyway - I guess we can all hope that the current ceasefire last longer than most. Although with both sides wittering on about 'victory' I can't say I'm optimistic. |
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh" ... And your analogy with events in North and South America sucks... '"
Why?
In particular, North America in what is now the USA.
Indigeneous population moved aside to make way for settlers ... and when they fight back they are met with massively violent retribution.
Sounds similar to me. |
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Give over, they are new houses, for recently-moved families, built using Israeli government cash.'"
Please, trace the conversation back. |
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Why?
In particular, North America in what is now the USA.
Indigeneous population moved aside to make way for settlers ... and when they fight back they are met with massively violent retribution.
Sounds similar to me.'"
It's superficially similar - which is why it was used - but only if you choose to ignore important cultural and legal differences between the two situations. |
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