The Christian message is simple. Lead a good life and raise your children likewise. When you die you live on (via your children - who are half you genetically) if you've brought them up well they should do likewise and your "spirit" will live with them too. Over time if everyone does so, we create ' Heaven on Earth.' Hell can be seen on many housing estates were generations have taken a different vapproach.

So what about all the Jews, Jains, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists and every other religion and even all those of no faith, who live a good life and instill goodness in their offspring?



What you have described is not a christian message, it is a humanist message

I didn't miss the point, the point was ridiculous and irrelevant, so I mocked it.







You have not yet cited a single thing that can be classed as 'evidence' by any reasonable interpretation of the word. All you have done is said, "I believe it, so it's true." I'm paraphrasing, but the message is the same.







Your posts would suggest otherwise.







You are unable to look at Christianity from a critical standpoint. If you did, you would cease to believe it. If you still believe it, you haven't looked at it critically. And certainly not logically.







No one tells me what to think. That's the beauty of being an atheist.







Scientific data is interpreted by many different people and reviewed until a consensus is reached. It does not rely on one person's say-so.







Really? You really need to ask that? How is empirical peer-reviewed evidence different to Christians reviewing their own book and finding it to be true? And you assert that you're [inot[/i a total idiot?







Yes. If the evidence was compelling enough and was subject to the normal verifications, of course.







Because no such evidence is likely to come along. Evolution is scientific fact. Every scientist thinks so. Anyone who doesn't think so either doesn't understand it, or wilfully ignores the evidence.







You have. You haven't presented one piece of evidence yet. Your 'relationship' with Jesus is not evidence. It's not even in the same ball park.







If God appeared before only my eyes and performed miracles, the most likely explanation would be a psychological episode. If, however, compelling physical evidence became available that confirmed his existence - evidence that was subjected to the usual rigorous [iscientific[/i testing - then of course I'd believe. The fact is, that not one shred of evidence exists.







If he existed, I most certainly would be.







I don't need to explain it because there's no evidence it actually happened.







They might agree, but they present no evidence.









I don't accept any claims about his divinity.







Eh? You should stop reading your silly websites and start reading some proper scientific literature.







I'll take my chances. I'm already a better individual than your God. I don't participate in mass murder, for a start.







F*ck Jesus.

Sorry to disappoint you, but you have yet to post anything that qualifies as evidence anywhere.





People of faith are, by definition, unable to take a truly critical standpoint on the object of their faith. Had you truly used critical thinking - or even basic logic - to examine Christianity you would not have been able to come to the conclusions that you express.





Once again, you really do have no idea how science works at all, do you?



Science doesn't tell people what to think, and interpretation of data does not require faith. It's open to independent corroboration.

Someone made in God's image and made by that same God, falls short of his standard (i.e. perfection) and that is enough to condemn them?

Wow.

So, if everyone who falls short of God's perfection goes to Hell, why is there a heaven? And who has made it to God's perfection? Is it basically just him and Jesus up there?

No man can make it Heaven through good works alone. That is Roman Catholic heresy.



The only way is through Jesus - the way, the truth and the life (John 14:6).

Yes.



Our wilful rebellion against God (sin) is enough for God to justly send us to Hell. The Bible tells us that the wages of sin is death, and eternal death and eternal separation from God.

Ever heard of an evangelical christian called Francis Collins? As well as being a christian he also an world renowned genetiscist and was the head of the Human Genome project. He has said in the past that the DNA evidence on it's own is enough to confirm common descent. Here's one of his quotes:-



"As someone who's had the privilege of leading the human genome project, I've had the opportunity to study our own DNA instruction book at a level of detail that was never really possible before. It's also now been possible to compare our DNA with that of many other species. The evidence supporting the idea that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is truly overwhelming. I would not necessarily wish that to be so, as a Bible-believing Christian. But it is so. It does not serve faith well to try to deny that."



Trying getting your information on evolution from proper scientists and not morons like Ray Comfort.

No, no, you misunderstand. If you fall short of the perfection the heavenly dictator demands, but you accept that you're a horrible, worthless sinner, then throw yourself at his feet and beg for mercy, he might just let you into heaven. He's a great guy really, if you can look past all the killing and stuff.

Maybe not scientific evidence, but then again science is concerned with the natural world, not the supernatural.







I can just as easily say that everyone who has looked at it critically will arrive at the same conclusion as me.







Other people can corroborate the power of baptism in the Holy Spirit - even people who didn't want to find God.

All DNA shows is that we have a common creator.