The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:57 pm  

Last weekend in a post, I said I couldn't see where the catalyst for a change in our fortunes would come from. Hopefully, we may have seen it this week.

- a demo by a section of fans hit the news and shook a few people.

- unfortunately it didn't shake two of our stars, yet the action of Terry Matterson may have given those two an even bigger wake up call. The comments from Nathan Brown reinforced this and he may have also struck a chord with them. Ironically, two players disciplined may have more of a positive effect and influence on the team going forward, rather than negative.

- the players on duty on Friday night showed spirit - and didn't give in ! We lost the game and got nilled, yet we may have gained more confidence from the performance rather than the result.

- the emergence of Jordan Thompson.

- a bit of honesty. Watch Mattersons press conference on the clubs website. He highlights something that I can't recall any of us picking up on, that most teams that have been relegated have gone into financial crisis. Oldham, Workington, Leigh, Widnes etc. He admits Cas' financial constraints don't help him as a coach. We made the play offs last year, we haven't gone bust, we are playing in Super League - do we underestimate our financial position as supporters ?!

- we play a Challenge Cup game next (which will be extremely difficult). It's no secret (from last year), that it's something we want to do well in. There will be a few players approaching that game that have a point to prove.

- our next 3 Super League games are against Salford, Catalans and Harlequins.

We, as supporters have a choice. We allow our own negativity to fester and contribute in our own clubs downfall - OR, we stick together, see what this next month brings in performance and we get behind 'em !!!

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:46 pm  

You're absolutely right, the next four games could turn the season around. The only 'easy' game we've had has been crusaders at home - all the other games you'd have expected to be close, with us winning a couple. We've got a good run ahead of us, if people can get behind the team, and the players work for each other, there's no reason we can't win them all

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:18 pm  

as if we dont all ready get behind them, its the same old words. is it a case of terry now trying to save himself from the sack, time and time again we hear the stories about certain players out on the beer, so why is it only now something is being done about it, should have got nipped in the bud ages ago. i know the players are on peanuts compared to footballers but they should realise that we who pay to watch them go to work five days a week, in some cases six and seven days and on shift work, so those players like certain board members should stop taking the mickey and give us what we deserve, better performances, better quality signings, and the truth about the new stadium for starters, we do our best turning up every week, so its over to the other lot.

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:33 am  

depends on how the individuals react to the discipline, at wakey last season when brough and sculthorpe had similar issue. brough took it on the chin and came back stronger while sculthorpe took his bat and ball home and subsequently left the club.

the fallout may take a little while to unfold. could galvanise the team or could cause a rift. time will tell

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:55 am  

Totally agree, a massive month ahead and hopefully greater focus is achieved.

But........

surely it all depends what the ghost of Wheldon Road decides???????????????

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:15 pm  

jungleman wrote:

as if we dont all ready get behind them

Erm...

jungleman wrote:

its the same old words. is it a case of terry now trying to save himself from the sack, time and time again we hear the stories about certain players out on the beer, so why is it only now something is being done about it, should have got nipped in the bud ages ago. i know the players are on peanuts compared to footballers but they should realise that we who pay to watch them go to work five days a week, in some cases six and seven days and on shift work, so those players like certain board members should stop taking the mickey and give us what we deserve, better performances, better quality signings, and the truth about the new stadium for starters, we do our best turning up every week, so its over to the other lot.

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:40 pm  

Poker Face wrote:

Last weekend in a post, I said I couldn't see where the catalyst for a change in our fortunes would come from. Hopefully, we may have seen it this week.

- a demo by a section of fans hit the news and shook a few people.

- unfortunately it didn't shake two of our stars, yet the action of Terry Matterson may have given those two an even bigger wake up call. The comments from Nathan Brown reinforced this and he may have also struck a chord with them. Ironically, two players disciplined may have more of a positive effect and influence on the team going forward, rather than negative.

- the players on duty on Friday night showed spirit - and didn't give in ! We lost the game and got nilled, yet we may have gained more confidence from the performance rather than the result.

- the emergence of Jordan Thompson.

- a bit of honesty. Watch Mattersons press conference on the clubs website. He highlights something that I can't recall any of us picking up on, that most teams that have been relegated have gone into financial crisis. Oldham, Workington, Leigh, Widnes etc. He admits Cas' financial constraints don't help him as a coach. We made the play offs last year, we haven't gone bust, we are playing in Super League - do we underestimate our financial position as supporters ?!

- we play a Challenge Cup game next (which will be extremely difficult). It's no secret (from last year), that it's something we want to do well in. There will be a few players approaching that game that have a point to prove.

- our next 3 Super League games are against Salford, Catalans and Harlequins.

We, as supporters have a choice. We allow our own negativity to fester and contribute in our own clubs downfall - OR, we stick together, see what this next month brings in performance and we get behind 'em !!!

Excellent post, unfortunatly many of our fans actually seem to prefer something to moan about.

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:47 pm  

pyeman wrote:

Excellent post, unfortunatly many of our fans actually seem to prefer something to moan about.

Heres a novel idea maybe its time the club gave us something to not moan about and something to cheer about instead, just a thought....

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:00 pm  

tigers67 wrote:

Heres a novel idea maybe its time the club gave us something to not moan about and something to cheer about instead, just a thought....

Yes because of course the club planned to have a huge amount of injuries, planned that fans would chant homophobic abuse, wanted players to go on drinking binges before games, hoped that crucial refereeing descisions would go against us, and actually enjoy having 70% of the playing budget of nearly every other side in sl and intended that the world economy would collapse while we are trying to raise funding for a stadium.

Case in point-the team gets injuries, we bring in some players on loan, people complain, a few weeks later we wouldnt have been able to field a team without those loan players.

Theres alot i would personaly change about the running of the club but i dont think people appreciate how little money we have compared to other clubs and that unless that changes we are always going to have to punch above our weight just to be competative. Look at huddersfield not that long ago nearly everything about there club was poor, millionaire backer comes in, they get a better team, better coach, better youth set up, better ground, more fans.

Re: The catalyst for change - a positive spin ! : Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:53 pm  

Good post

However, I hope people wont be too over confident in us winning the next 4 games (including the CC game) Barrow are just finding form as are Salford, Quins and Catalans. I'm not overly confident about any.

That said i would hope we could get at least 4 points and through to the next round of the CC.

Friday's performance hopefully was a wake up call for the senior members of the squad, the youngsters showed that they are willing to play their hearts out and be competetive even if we did lack that creativity in the halves to break their (very good) defence