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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:00 pm  
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as a saints fan you should know what happens when you don't add quality and experience to youth. Burned out injured and low confidence usually ruins a career of young players.


I'm not against buying players at all if you can afford it. I wish saints would. Just don't spout off what great youth system you have then buy Smith, Green, Taylor, Bateman etc
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:22 pm  
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I'm not against buying players at all if you can afford it. I wish saints would. Just don't spout off what great youth system you have then buy Smith, Green, Taylor, Bateman etc



Taylor and Bateman have massive potential and would be stupid not to get them, green and smith had to come or we would of have 18-20 year olds playing in the half's and would of probably set them back in development. Green is off after next season and powell, hampshire or williams will be his replacement and bowen is here for a year and will be replaced by either tierny or hampshire.

i get your point that we don't have a squad full of wigan developed players but its hardly the point rogues is trying to make either.
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:23 pm  
Not arrogance, Wigan are the team to beat again next season
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:27 pm  
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Not arrogance, Wigan are the team to beat again next season


in all honesty i think saints and leeds are going to be the teams to beat next season depending on situations of course.
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:33 pm  
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Taylor and Bateman have massive potential and would be stupid not to get them, green and smith had to come or we would of have 18-20 year olds playing in the half's and would of probably set them back in development. Green is off after next season and powell, hampshire or williams will be his replacement and bowen is here for a year and will be replaced by either tierny or hampshire.

i get your point that we don't have a squad full of wigan developed players but its hardly the point rogues is trying to make either.


He constantly posts on here how many home grown players are in the squad. He constantly tells us how many kids play for England that are on wigans books. He constantly tells us Wigan produce more players than any other towns.
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:36 pm  
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He constantly posts on here how many home grown players are in the squad. He constantly tells us how many kids play for England that are on wigans books. He constantly tells us Wigan produce more players than any other towns.


obviously he is just on a wind up mission as well as some pride i guess haha. But i dont think even Rogue believes we could win the league with just Wigan developed players.
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:38 pm  
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obviously he is just on a wind up mission as well as some pride i guess haha. But i dont think even Rogue believes we could win the league with just Wigan developed players.


I wouldn't be so sure :wink:
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:48 pm  
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I wouldn't be so sure :wink:


to be fair i don't think Wigan will ever be in the position for it, soon as we develop a good player they get tapped up. But it would be close to impossible in the modern day to produce a team full of home grown players and still challenge.


why don't you just put rogues in your foe list?
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:58 pm  
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He constantly posts on here how many home grown players are in the squad. He constantly tells us how many kids play for England that are on wigans books. He constantly tells us Wigan produce more players than any other towns.


And we do, what is your point? You go on about us being a buying club but who doesn't sign players from other clubs? We buy players to compliment the squad we have here not to force the youngsters out. It's laughable for it to be suggested that Wigan do anything other then look after their youngsters and give them chances to progress. They even let them leave for fresh challenges when they want to because we'd rather have money to re-invest (in all areas, not just transfer fees) then unhappy players on the books.

Look at Wigans side from the GF if you think our club developed players are being held back. Tomkins, Charnley, Goulding, Thornley, Mossop, McIlorum, Hansen, Farrell, O'Loughlin, Crosby and Hughes all came through our system. We have just short of a whole third of England's squad for Saturday made up of Wigan produced players. We've just had an England academy team playing a series against Wales with half of them being Wigan products. We're the Grand Final holders, Challenge cup holders and Academy grand final winners and they're all facts.

A jibe that we're a 'buying club' won't see too many Wiganers losing much sleep but it just doesn't make sense (a buying club is Salford or Warrington). Don't spout off about our youth system when we buy players? Why not?! We buy players and improve them (Smith, Taylor, Green etc being examples) to play them alongside a whole heap of locally produced internationals.
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Re: Wigan Arrogance : Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:59 pm  
If we had won the double, I'd be arrogant too.
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