Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:36 am  

I'm concerned that what was once a community project involving the people of Leigh a handful of years ago appears to be turning into a millionaires personal hobby.

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:00 am  

chissitt wrote:

Sorry to blow your argument away, but when you played Wakefield at Bellevue we had a full strength side out, and indeed only a couple missing in the middle 8s' at Leigh.

Well you've not blown it away have you lol!

So we lost to the worst team in Super League, when they had 2 injuries..... And Rowley is a mastermind coach?

People are getting caught up on titles, not losing a game all year, getting far in the challenge cup and signing Moi Moi doesnt get you into Super League.....

When played Hull KR and they just blew the game, it came apparent that the tactics being used are dumb and schoolboy like

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:08 am  

Was going to get my season ticket this morning, now holding off till someone comes along and explains what's going on at the club. Fans need to know

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:55 am  

Paul_Lyon wrote:

I'm concerned that what was once a community project involving the people of Leigh a handful of years ago appears to be turning into a millionaires personal hobby.

Hobby Seriously??

Love him or hate him, surely you can see he is not just in this for the fun of it

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:56 am  

Reading the 2 public statements it appears Paul Rowley really didn't really want to resign and had his ideal job, but felt he had no other option. Or maybe the 2 statements were mutually agreed upon in advance. I'd like to think Derek is working tirelessly to reverse this decision and fix any disagreements or internal and relationship problems that may have overwhelmed the people involved. Paul Rowley deserved the squad he now had and it's a damn shame if he doesn't get to see the fruits of his labour and achieve the collective potential over the next 12 months and beyond. I'm sure we all foresaw PR at the helm for the next 3-5 years and eventually in Super League. I think a lot of the players will be disappointed and demotivated by what has happened. Could the recent resignation be related to this article below. PR rightfully wanting to operate professionally and quietly going about business and DB with the intention of bringing eyeballs and media attention to the club ultimately generating more sales for AB Sundecks immediately - which as club sponser must be the objective. And PR not wanting to operate under such conditions? http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/14136478.Rowley_vows_to_improve_culture_as_ambitious_Leigh_bid_to_reach_the_promised_land/?ref=rss

Reading the 2 public statements it appears Paul Rowley really didn't really want to resign and had his ideal job, but felt he had no other option. Or maybe the 2 statements were mutually agreed upon in advance. I'd like to think Derek is working tirelessly to reverse this decision and fix any disagreements or internal and relationship problems that may have overwhelmed the people involved. Paul Rowley deserved the squad he now had and it's a damn shame if he doesn't get to see the fruits of his labour and achieve the collective potential over the next 12 months and beyond. I'm sure we all foresaw PR at the helm for the next 3-5 years and eventually in Super League. I think a lot of the players will be disappointed and demotivated by what has happened. Could the recent resignation be related to this article below. PR rightfully wanting to operate professionally and quietly going about business and DB with the intention of bringing eyeballs and media attention to the club ultimately generating more sales for AB Sundecks immediately - which as club sponser must be the objective. And PR not wanting to operate under such conditions? http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/14136478.Rowley_vows_to_improve_culture_as_ambitious_Leigh_bid_to_reach_the_promised_land/?ref=rss

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:06 am  

westleighjim wrote:

Was going to get my season ticket this morning, now holding off till someone comes along and explains what's going on at the club. Fans need to know

Me thinks some people are looking for excuses not to buy ST here.

A team made up of some of the most exciting players we have had for many many a year, who could win this league blindfolded and without a coach.

And what exactly do you expect the club to say, the coach has resigned for personal reasons that he does not wish to disclose - could be any one of a number of reasons (heard a good few rumours) but surely the fans and the club need to respect that.

PR felt he had to go, so be it - onwards and upwards, go buy your season ticket and support the club you love and enjoy the ride

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:33 am  

ColD wrote:

Hobby Seriously??

Love him or hate him, surely you can see he is not just in this for the fun of it

Sorry, yes-'hobby' not the best choice of word.

I guess what I mean is that for a time we had very much a sense that is was "our" club p, rather than "his" club.
Of course not only is DB entitled to run the club as he sees fit with all the time, effort and money he puts in, but he also deserves to.
There's a fine line of not crossing into areas he's better off not going in order not to alienate other people that are needed for the club to be a success.

Maybe it's a price we pay as fans:
Is it really a choice between a community club with no money or a rich club with a sole owner making most/all the decisions?
DB is a more successful and wealthier business man than I'll ever be, so I defer to his expertise but keeping everyone on board is a tough challenge and there are temptations not to...

Cheers. //p.

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:41 am  

ColD wrote:

Me thinks some people are looking for excuses not to buy ST here.

A team made up of some of the most exciting players we have had for many many a year, who could win this league blindfolded and without a coach.

And what exactly do you expect the club to say, the coach has resigned for personal reasons that he does not wish to disclose - could be any one of a number of reasons (heard a good few rumours) but surely the fans and the club need to respect that.

PR felt he had to go, so be it - onwards and upwards, go buy your season ticket and support the club you love and enjoy the ride

You quite rightly mention the quality of the players. It isn't the Rowley resignation that has caused me to pause but the rumours that x,y and z are also leaving. So far I have seen 4 names mentioned, one in the press and the rest on social media. Personally I think it is unlikely but it still brings about doubt and hopefully the club will find its voice over the next few days.

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:07 am  

Paul_Lyon wrote:

Sorry, yes-'hobby' not the best choice of word.

I guess what I mean is that for a time we had very much a sense that is was "our" club p, rather than "his" club.
Of course not only is DB entitled to run the club as he sees fit with all the time, effort and money he puts in, but he also deserves to.
There's a fine line of not crossing into areas he's better off not going in order not to alienate other people that are needed for the club to be a success.

Maybe it's a price we pay as fans:
Is it really a choice between a community club with no money or a rich club with a sole owner making most/all the decisions?
DB is a more successful and wealthier business man than I'll ever be, so I defer to his expertise but keeping everyone on board is a tough challenge and there are temptations not to...

Cheers. //p.

Paul,

Irrespective of how much influence the owner exerts on the club, I don't think we can say that it's at the expense of being a 'Community' club. The club appears to be highly involved with the local community amateur clubs and local charities. And, didn't we win the 'Championship Community Club of the Year' award last season?

Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:14 am  

I can't believe some of the things that I am reading. Not a single one of you know exactly what has happened. Why not buy your ST. Have you suddenly decided that you are not going to be Leigh fans because the coach has resigned? The club is much bigger than any one person. Let it be a player, coach or owner, but the latter is very important person as without him we are goosed. Pauls dad is still employed by the club so that sort of tells me that its something else. Derek does no have to make a statement to any one apart from the team, coaching staff and any other investors. I personally think it crazy to demand one. We are fans of sporting club and to withdraw support is doing nothing but damage to the club. I don't know Derek personally and have no wish to but that man has pumped a good lump of dosh into this club that has had a lot to do with where we are now. Lets get behind the board and the team and enjoy what we see on the field. I am very sorry to see Paul leave but he has gone now so lets look to the new season.