: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:39 pm  

Throw another one in, what about London RL amateur clubs training and playing games on Saturday afternoons? Kids who are interested in RL and their parents not able to turn up at the Stoop due to clash of interests.

Interesting figures from last year where season tickets were issued to local clubs but many not used. Clash of priorities perhaps? People cannot be in two places at once. London RL need to look at what clubs are doing and whether there is any potential to maximise opportunities for Quins and also Scholars’ to attract support.

Simple, do not allow games or training either Saturday of Sunday afternoons for junior players. Instead support a one of the professional clubs.

: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:41 pm  

daftdad wrote:

Moving to only one stand was a big mistake and will impact on those who have attended the Stoop last year. How many season ticket holders did not renew due to moving to the east stand, or for that matter, how many did not renew at all?
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I did not renew my season tickets (2 adults, 2 children) because of the move to the East stand and the poor view from the front seats (have to sit there due to age of children). If the club are more concerned about tv appearance than the fans then that is their choice. I told them so when they called me.

: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:54 pm  

3882 is terrible for our first home SL game of the season, and against Wigan. I thought atmosphere was good, but on TV seeing the 3/4 empty stands behind the posts looked quite bad.

with regards to the match, that is the worst I have felt leaving the stoop, We all expected so much form this game and afterwards I just felt so deflated because we should have taken the 2 points from this one. Yes Mellings pass at the end was silly but we should have been so much further ahead at the end that them scoring a try by then shouldn't have mattered.

On that showing we won't win Super League, but it is a long way to go, there were some good signs, the 40/20, the set pieces from scrums and the taking of high balls by the full backs were brilliant.

Let's hope we can rectify this by teaching Salford a lesson in RL next week.

: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:15 pm  

daftdad wrote:

Throw another one in, what about London RL amateur clubs training and playing games on Saturday afternoons? Kids who are interested in RL and their parents not able to turn up at the Stoop due to clash of interests.

Interesting figures from last year where season tickets were issued to local clubs but many not used. Clash of priorities perhaps? People cannot be in two places at once. London RL need to look at what clubs are doing and whether there is any potential to maximise opportunities for Quins and also Scholars’ to attract support.

Simple, do not allow games or training either Saturday of Sunday afternoons for junior players. Instead support a one of the professional clubs.

the amateur season has not started yet so you can't blame that for the crap crowd and amateur rugby league has always been played on saturdays in London. why should over 20 junior and 30 senior clubs change from saturdays just because quins decide to move from sunday matches??

: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:03 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

will write to the people involved in marketing this week and Mr Hughes and I am going to ask what they plan to do about the lack of suporters. Don't expect an answer and fully expect to be further ostracised, but if ANYONE WITH A BRAIN THINKS 3,800 IS ACCEPTABLE, they need removing from the club now!
Losses happen, but a 50% drop in gate year on year is unacceptable and heads must now roll.
Too angry to post facts and figures etc.....but his is the last wake up call.
Something must be done.

And this from a bloke who wasn't there! I think you will find that there was a good marketing initiative for this game - ST holders able to bring 4 people @ £10 each. Bought 8 adults and 2 kids with me.

Still how many pints does that make it now GF (although I have to say I thought there were more than 4K there yesterday)

: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:11 pm  

Reading Quin wrote:

I did not renew my season tickets (2 adults, 2 children) because of the move to the East stand and the poor view from the front seats (have to sit there due to age of children). If the club are more concerned about tv appearance than the fans then that is their choice. I told them so when they called me.

I have always feared the affect on attendances from moving back to the East stand. The West is so much better for most fans and the fans have now moved around to be near friends/groups they prefer. I am sure this had an impact but am unsure atm how much. However, If I remember correctly it was more of an instruction to move we got rather than the club deciding to make a choice, which makes it difficult to criticise the club. Noises about it saving us money were put out afterwards (which is a debatable point if you lose fans) but it was the Sky people who we were told wanted it at the begining.

the amateur season has not started yet so you can't blame th : Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:30 pm  

I am not saying that senior clubs should change from Saturday's at all or stop playing on a Saturday afternoon, since this is one of tradition and should not change. To do so would kill the game and be counterproductive to potential new talent.

My observation relates to junior rugby where parents have to take, or make arrangements to get the young'uns to games. Where junior teams play or train in the afternoon, Saturday or Sunday this could impact (and does - some clubs are training now) on those who would want to go and watch Quins or Scholars.

Result reduction of potential supporters for the professional clubs.

Many years ago I lived in the North, no junior games were played in the afternoons and those who wished went to watch the local professional club. I am just throwing out an observation for all parties trying to deliver an integrated approach for what is a brilliant game. The problem is support is fragmented or non-existent. This in one idea which should be considered, and who knows, may help to boast potential support for the professional clubs.

: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:45 pm  

As a neutral (although after three seasons of watching quins - becoming more biased) I felt it was a good exciting game. Quins still seem to struggle with the second half of games - something I thought you were overcoming last season. It was a game you should have won and really lost with only 5 mins remaining!

What on earth was going on with the kicking tee? Surely quins can afford more than one! Messing around with that caused the kick out on the full!

Regarding the game experience all in one stand I thought was rubbish. We were in the Jesters and to be honest found ourselves watching the big screen as the view to the North end of the pitch is pretty poor, far worse than in the LV stand. We were in the Jesters not out of choice, but because last week when we purchased tickets the only club seats they had available were near the front.

It's been said that Sky wanted everybody in one stand - well the tries on Sky looked really good against a background of three apparently empty stands! Opposing fans sitting opposite each other adds to the game atmosphere - something lost when you're all in one stand. And what was the bit of empty seating about between the two sets of fans - was someone expecting it all to kick off!

Will I keep coming and paying money to watch quins? I'll be there for the Warrington game and if the experience is as poor again then may not bother. Daftdads comments about walk ups is key. You want to be able to feel that when you struggle with the public transport system you should at least be able to get a decent seat in a ground that isn't exactly capacity.

: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:23 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

Shame nobody heard it...

Frankly I barely head the Wigan support last night (I was itting withing=n about three seats of the halfway line) and that's the smallest number of Wigan fans I've ever seen at one of our home games against you. You had about a quarter of those in the main stand at best, and those that were there never made a squeak except when you were in front.

: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:39 pm  

Paddock Punter wrote:

And this from a bloke who wasn't there! I think you will find that there was a good marketing initiative for this game - ST holders able to bring 4 people @ £10 each. Bought 8 adults and 2 kids with me.

Still how many pints does that make it now GF (although I have to say I thought there were more than 4K there yesterday)

The worrying thing is PP that even with that the crowd was embarrassingly poor. Its frankly no good describing any marketing initiative that has clearly failed as good.

3800 crowds against one of the major draws in the game will kill the club long before we need to worry about another franchise. You dread to think what the Wakefield or Salford crowds might be