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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"When I said ‘they’ I was referring to the paper, do the council have any savings in the Icelandic bank?
If so, they (The W.E.)should be bleating about that, because that cash won’t be coming back any time soon.'"
I see, apologies for the crossed wires.
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Quote rubber man="rubber man"I think we should look beyond the motives of the WE and look at the significant positives from the content of the Cabinet report. The report is available to view on the Council website.
Anyone who has anything to do with Local Authorities at the moment will know that the idea of effectively approving the ring-fencing of an allocation of £150k, recognising it may not be capable of being repaid, is a much, much bigger issue then it was a couple of years ago when this kind of figure would be allocated without too much trouble. To me this suggests a level of Council support for the project which cannot be broadcast for reasons of transparency, particularly in relation to their role as Local Planning Authority.'"
Fair point and it does signify a degree of confidence from within the council to act as a guarantor, they are seen to be doing their bit without any financial burden on themselves as long as the scheme gets approval.
Here are said documents.
mg.wakefield.gov.uk/Published/C0 ... ocA.ps.pdf
mg.wakefield.gov.uk/Published/C0 ... ocA.ps.pdf
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Quote rubber man="rubber man"I think we should look beyond the motives of the WE and look at the significant positives from the content of the Cabinet report. The report is available to view on the Council website.
Anyone who has anything to do with Local Authorities at the moment will know that the idea of effectively approving the ring-fencing of an allocation of £150k, recognising it may not be capable of being repaid, is a much, much bigger issue then it was a couple of years ago when this kind of figure would be allocated without too much trouble. To me this suggests a level of Council support for the project which cannot be broadcast for reasons of transparency, particularly in relation to their role as Local Planning Authority.'"
Fair point and it does signify a degree of confidence from within the council to act as a guarantor, they are seen to be doing their bit without any financial burden on themselves as long as the scheme gets approval.
Here are said documents.
mg.wakefield.gov.uk/Published/C0 ... ocA.ps.pdf
mg.wakefield.gov.uk/Published/C0 ... ocA.ps.pdf
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| Can someone explain to me what the WE has against this development? If we weren't involved in this would they take such a negative stance? This is of massive benefit to the whole district, it provides sporting facilities that we simply don't have. Why would they be not be taking a stance that shows at the very least a neutral take on proceedings?
I completely understand that the WE can't show favouritism to either side, pro or against, I also understand that there will be people that oppose this project, but up to now I just don't see that they are doing this. Any coverage and it is very little seems to have a negative connotation and I can't understand why. Do they just have it in for WT? I don't remember this level of sinnicism at the announcement of Trinity Walk and still they seem to favour this development even after all it's documented troubles. So what is the problem? They did the same with Thornes park. Do they see this as the wildcats against the rest, and if so are they completely overlooking the point here?
Also why the hell are the WE still using that pie in the sky artist impression picture. Instead of using a sketch of god knows where why not show what it will actually look like using the actual pictures of what it will look like?!
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| The WE can, and do, show favouritism on many issues - usually what will make the highest number of readers happy to buy the paper again. Scaremongering at its worst, getting up there with the Daily Mail. (See the pointless campaign against the car parking firm…)
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| I've read this twice now and the second time I didn't get the same feeling as the the first time I read it,
we have a negative attitude to the WE which makes any comment made by them come in a negative way,
I decided to read it as a positive way in that the Council would support the Wakefield and District Community Sports Trust backing it with paying the fees if it didn't happen and I did have to stop a few times and keep reminding my self to read positive support, one word 'liable' made it sound negative but the council have said they would act as guarantor for a loan for design fees so they would be liable,
Denise Jeffery said the final decision on planning permission rested with the secretary of state and not the council, that's just a statement that is true and is out of the councils hands,
so thank you WE proving we have the support again from the WMDC 
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| I think we need to keep reminding ouselves that this is " or bust"
if this scheme goes belly up so dose professional RL in the City of Wakefield... as I understand we have sold the ground so whoever is the buyer will not remain patient forever to get their mitts on the land... we will not get a superleague license...
no superleague money... no ground... end of days....
that is how vital this current scheme is to the future of Wakefield Trinity!
so the stadium plans folding cannot be considered as an option! this really is death or glory!
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| Quote underground="underground"I think we need to keep reminding ouselves that this is "poop or bust"
if this scheme goes belly up so dose professional RL in the City of Wakefield... as I understand we have sold the ground so whoever is the buyer will not remain patient forever to get their mitts on the land... we will not get a superleague license...
no superleague money... no ground... end of days....
that is how vital this current scheme is to the future of Wakefield Trinity!
so the stadium plans folding cannot be considered as an option! this really is death or glory!'"
Getting permission to develop the current site without their being a replacement ground is not a straightforward issue.
Personally I feel the best option is not to give negative talk the oxygen of publicity, it can only serve to strengthen the voices of anybody with a gripe against it or us.
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| Don't get the WE.
Did they publish any of the letters of support which were written in response to a plea on this site?
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| Quote moonriverman="moonriverman"Don't get the WE.
Did they publish any of the letters of support which were written in response to a plea on this site?'"
Don't read it myself but i'd like to bet they have no printed anything it support.
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| Quote BIGAL1="BIGAL1"Don't read it myself but i'd like to bet they have no printed anything it support.'"
There was a 'romantic' letter about the connection between 'Wakefield' and 'Trinity' from an ex-pat last week. The previous week had my letter and one against the proposal. This week has a letter backing up the 'romantic' one - but nothing directly for or against.
We are expecting there to be letters this week following the aritcle about the under-writing, so if any of you can spare the few moments it takes to get a letter in about how this is a 'Community' facility and the benefits to health and welfare it can bring about, as well as preserving our heritage, then PLEASE, PLEASE send one in for us. I would write again, but we cannot be seen to be making this personal - for obvious reasons!
Thanks.
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| Quote The Trip="The Trip"Absolutely spot on. It's a non-story really it was also in last nights EP.
The 150k guarantee is a lot better punt with 100's of jobs and superb sports.event and recreation facilities than the 9mill lost in Iceland.
A POINT WELL WORTH REITERATING !'"
wow, 9 Mil ! how much shopping do they do at the WMDC. I spent £53.87 last week at Iceland and it filled a big trolley, the frezzer at the Town hall must be massive 
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They can't even get off their butts to get the motorway right,where's the M63?
As TRB points out,letters would be great,we can't always be seen to be the ones sending them in so if anyone else cares to send one,here you go.
editorial@wakefieldexpress.co.uk
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They can't even get off their butts to get the motorway right,where's the M63?
As TRB points out,letters would be great,we can't always be seen to be the ones sending them in so if anyone else cares to send one,here you go.
editorial@wakefieldexpress.co.uk
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Quote JINJER="JINJER"They can't even get off their butts to get the motorway right,where's the M63?
As TRB points out,letters would be great,we can't always be seen to be the ones sending them in so if anyone else cares to send one,here you go.
editorial@wakefieldexpress.co.uk'"
The M63 no longer exists, I think it now forms part of the M60 around M/chester. It goes over the Barton Bridge where the new Salford ground is supposedly being built hth 
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Quote JINJER="JINJER"They can't even get off their butts to get the motorway right,where's the M63?
As TRB points out,letters would be great,we can't always be seen to be the ones sending them in so if anyone else cares to send one,here you go.
editorial@wakefieldexpress.co.uk'"
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| Like snowie I read it and took it in a positive light, hardly smacks of not supporting it does it???
frankly the WE is not going to influence this one way or the other, if wmdc backs it.
and i read that as them backing it.
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| Quote chapster="chapster"Like snowie I read it and took it in a positive light, hardly smacks of not supporting it does it???
frankly the WE is not going to influence this one way or the other, if wmdc backs it.
and i read that as them backing it.'"
Understand what you are saying - but the truth is that this DOES create and HAS created difficulties already as it prompts questions from folk who don't understand the benefits.
The WE does have influence - very much so!
The council have already been fielding questions since Friday morning. I must ask if a few of you could get the letters written - please! 
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| Just typed my letter to the express, emailing a few councillors won't do any harm either
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| Quote Wakefield City Loyal="Wakefield City Loyal"Just typed my letter to the express, emailing a few councillors won't do any harm either'"
 Thank you! 
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