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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:25 am  
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Think this dispute will only end one way and its going to be a particularly nasty one I'd guess at the moment.

The TUPE laws might cover the contractual side, but as Garreth knows full well from his previous time at Hull FC, its the registration document with the RFL that is important...

I wonder if he fully remembers signing the last contract with Hull FC under duress before his agent told him to withdraw it, only to discover he couldn't due to it being registered at Red Hall? Amazing how that has not been mentioned in any of the posts I've read.

I also wonder if he'll remember being told that he'd end up rotting in the reserves until nobody had room in the cap unless someone forked out a transfer fee? Again something that has conveniently been missed off.

Cool story bro.

Regarding things held at Red Hall, you may remember a few years back we had a player (I forget his name) who walked out on his contract because he apparently never signed it. A dubious position in contract law, but whatever. Hull FC still held his registration and were confident that the RFL would back them up. Right up until the point he signed for Rovers and the RFL cleared it without a second thought.

Red Hall has a history of staying out of contract wrangles unless there has been a clear breach of RFL rules.
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:26 am  
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No , as a Doncaster fan , I donot know what he is like.

Funny enough on 5 live sports extra , Paul tweeted about a decision & the reporter said he is doing some coaching at Hull FC.

He was referring to our resident KR troll/mod, not PC.
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:34 am  
It must be a Hull thing.

O/T hope Hull have a good season , I think Huddersfield have set down a marker !
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:51 am  
Kosh wrote:
Cool story bro.

Regarding things held at Red Hall, you may remember a few years back we had a player (I forget his name) who walked out on his contract because he apparently never signed it. A dubious position in contract law, but whatever. Hull FC still held his registration and were confident that the RFL would back them up. Right up until the point he tsigned for Rovers and the RFL cleared it without a second thought.

Red Hall has a history of staying out of contract wrangles unless there has been a clear breach of RFL rules.


Well said.
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:43 pm  
Don't know if anyone else has mentioned but a player left Hull to sign for Bradford when he had signed to play for Hull but had a change of mind. Seems ironic now that he is doing to Bradford what he himself did to us!
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:45 pm  
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It must be a Hull thing.

O/T hope Hull have a good season , I think Huddersfield have set down a marker !


Against a directionless Wigan side in the first game of the season?
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:33 pm  
according to hdm refusing to train with bulls.looks like he's def on way.just a question on whether we pay a fee or not.if its ruled we have to pay a fee could see a player swap with pitts (if he agrees to move) been on the cards.hope we get carvell but would'nt want to lose pitts.don't feel 2nd row is as strong as some people think
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:35 pm  
Don't want to lose Pitts, I think he's a good player.
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:43 pm  
thats what i think.was never bigger enough for a prop (even a pete gentle mobile one).has good feet,decent hands and aggresion.would like to see him ellis and tuson in 2nd row with whiting at loose and westerman and thomson battling it out for a spot.westerman definatley needs to raise his game this year.back to pitts i see him becoming a shane mcmenemy/chris chester type of player for us who both did a good solid job
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Re: gareth carvell : Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:13 pm  
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Don't want to lose Pitts, I think he's a good player.

He's an OK 2nd rower but is much better than thompson IMO who I've never seen anything from to suggest he's anything but totally average
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