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Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:18 pm  
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See even Widnes fans know about proper lobby. Well done vikingman. :CLAP:


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Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:05 pm  
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You seem suicidal because McNamara hasn't picked your precious Mickey Mac, who's better than Roby, and Darryl 'Meninga' Goulding who makes Jamie Lyon look like an amateur.

Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:17 pm  
ah the placebo affect. im pretty up on this stuff as we are just getting into vitamins, minerals and their effects on health etc on my course. loads of studies have been done into the effects of large Vit C doses etc etc etc on the immune system. it has no effect whatsoever on incidences of colds/flu. only a severe deficiency will adversely affect your immune response. just thought i would wield the trusty sword of truth :P if anyone drinks funky ginger/honey cocktails, takes lots of Vit C blah blah and claims to never get colds its either just coincidence or they naturally have a more robust immune response anyway.
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Saddened! wrote:
You seem suicidal because McNamara hasn't picked your precious Mickey Mac, who's better than Roby, and Darryl 'Meninga' Goulding who makes Jamie Lyon look like an amateur.

Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:18 pm  
in conclusion, they should stop being girls, 'Man up' and get stuck into The Wire :)
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Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:28 am  
When reading the title of this thread I thought that we were advertising a new Happy Mondays album.
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Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:18 pm  
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ah the placebo affect. im pretty up on this stuff as we are just getting into vitamins, minerals and their effects on health etc on my course. loads of studies have been done into the effects of large Vit C doses etc etc etc on the immune system. it has no effect whatsoever on incidences of colds/flu. only a severe deficiency will adversely affect your immune response. just thought i would wield the trusty sword of truth :P if anyone drinks funky ginger/honey cocktails, takes lots of Vit C blah blah and claims to never get colds its either just coincidence or they naturally have a more robust immune response anyway.


Odd how for the 2 years previous then that I had a string of chest infections and caught every cold going, even though I still mix with the same people, work in an environment where 90% of people have been ill in the past couple of months, including all my friends and family. This is not a coincidence, or down to a naturally robust immune system.

Honey and ginger themselves are antibacterial, this is a proven fact. Ginger also has antibiotic properties. Echinacea has been proven to improve immune system activity. So perhaps you're not as well up as you'd wish to believe?

It wouldn't do well for all the pharmaceutical companies if we were all super healthy, seeing as they make a fortune out of us being ill. Funny how a lot of the 'scientific' claims against natural remedies for cold prevention are done by groups affiliated to these awful companies whose main aim is to generate vast wealth for their shareholders.
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Saddened! wrote:
You seem suicidal because McNamara hasn't picked your precious Mickey Mac, who's better than Roby, and Darryl 'Meninga' Goulding who makes Jamie Lyon look like an amateur.

Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:08 pm  
i did not claim echinacea does not improve immune response, as it has been shown IN SOME cases to improve this.. i did not claim ginger does not have antibacterial properties, it does but only with regards to digestive bacteria which have no real bearing upon a rhinovirus taking hold in your respiratory tract. it does not in itself 'kill' the common cold or flu virus. it actually kills the things that cause stomach upset and digestive tract issues. thus it has no bearing whatsoever upon colds/flu or lack thereof. so rather than getting needlessly confrontational with your ultimately anecdotal take on my comments, go and do some research yourself.
also you obviously missed or ignored the part about the placebo affect. which pretty much makes your comments irrelevant anyway.
and your last paragraph is about as irrelevant as it gets.
and in response to what im assuming was a rhetorical question, yes actually i think i am pretty much as well up as i believe, dealing in facts rather than anecdotal evidence or the experiences of me and a few friends out of six billion people. or maybe they gave me the sports nutrition degree purely out of charity?

im not an idiot, i know full well to look into just who funds the research i come across.
my original comment was intended in jest and a good natured attempt to blow away some myths (of which there are far to many taken as fact)
frankly there was no need to be a bit of an booty about it.
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Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:53 am  
There are contradictory reports made on both sides of the fence over this area of medicine but what they all agree on is a balanced diet with the appropriate vitamins and minerals in it is needed to maintain the human bodies imune system. Adding to these or taking a suppliment of some that you maybe missing can only help to fend off bugs and viruses. What I would say is that I would sooner take this preventative type of medicine than a coarse of ABs anytime. One last thing is our bodies are just like engines put cheap oil/fuel in it and it doesn't do it any good.
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Re: Injuries, man flu and belly ache.... : Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:12 pm  
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i did not claim echinacea does not improve immune response, as it has been shown IN SOME cases to improve this.. i did not claim ginger does not have antibacterial properties, it does but only with regards to digestive bacteria which have no real bearing upon a rhinovirus taking hold in your respiratory tract. it does not in itself 'kill' the common cold or flu virus. it actually kills the things that cause stomach upset and digestive tract issues. thus it has no bearing whatsoever upon colds/flu or lack thereof. so rather than getting needlessly confrontational with your ultimately anecdotal take on my comments, go and do some research yourself.
also you obviously missed or ignored the part about the placebo affect. which pretty much makes your comments irrelevant anyway.
and your last paragraph is about as irrelevant as it gets.
and in response to what im assuming was a rhetorical question, yes actually i think i am pretty much as well up as i believe, dealing in facts rather than anecdotal evidence or the experiences of me and a few friends out of six billion people. or maybe they gave me the sports nutrition degree purely out of charity?

im not an idiot, i know full well to look into just who funds the research i come across.
my original comment was intended in jest and a good natured attempt to blow away some myths (of which there are far to many taken as fact)
frankly there was no need to be a bit of an booty about it.


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