: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:58 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

Really the Championship should have started earlier with the Grand Final being in early September so that a team had more time to sign the better SL players off contract

Even that was too late with the p & r system. Most players are signed up by July / August.

Hull KR were the only exception to the rule, as they were a really well assembled side that were streets ahead of anything the National Leagues had to offer.

The last club to make a real impact after promotion was Widnes in 2002. The Grand Final was months ahead of the SL one.

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:14 pm  

We dont need to get the nod over Halifax as they are an inferior club.

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:16 pm  

I`m hope the RFL go down the route and add 2 more clubs to the league.

Not enough teams in it i think .

Surely a simply meathod of adding 2 more high status clubs to the league will spice it up more.

Big crowds happy days

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:00 pm  

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

We dont need to get the nod over Halifax as they are an inferior club.

An inferior club which has won 2 out of 3 against the "golden boys" although I do realize that a SL license has nothing to do with on-field performances.

Despite your snooty broadside, i do agree that Widnes currently offer more to SL than Halifax do. Indeed there are 3 or 4 clubs already in SL inferior to Widnes IMO.

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:04 pm  

littlerich wrote:

An inferior club which has won 2 out of 3 against the "golden boys" although I do realize that a SL license has nothing to do with on-field performances.

Despite your snooty broadside, i do agree that Widnes currently offer more to SL than Halifax do. Indeed there are 3 or 4 clubs already in SL inferior to Widnes IMO.

I was

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:07 pm  

May i take the hook out of my mouth now?

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:09 pm  

littlerich wrote:

May i take the hook out of my mouth now?

Only Widnes fans have posted on the thread so far so no need to remove my friend.

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:37 pm  

Lets look at Widnes/Fax/Leigh, will give marks out of 10 at the end of each group


Sponsorship

Widnes - Stobarts

Halifax - Halifax home insurance thingy me bob

Leigh - JR (local pie seller)???

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10
Leigh - 4/10

Ground

Widnes - Stobart Stadium all seater

Halifax - Half good half bad, once finished will look decent enough

Leigh - Cracking sports Village

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10 (if finished)
Leigh - 9/10

Support

Widnes - average at around 3,800

Halifax - average at around 2,400

Leigh - average at around 1,900

Widnes - 6/10
Halifax - 5/10
Leigh - 4/10

Chairman

Widnes - Steve O'connor - Millionaire business man who works for a huge company

Halifax - Michael Steele - apologies but dont know anything about him

Leigh - Arthur Thomas - Millionaire??????

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10

Youth setup/scholarship/community

Widnes - Run at all ages and have award winning community programme. 6 home grown in squad

Halifax - No academy at any level but decent community work.

Leigh - Reserve side but no academy or foundation, award winning community work. Numerous home grown in squad


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 4/10
Leigh - 6/10

Professional club setup/Media prescense

Widnes - Up to date official website, and sky media bitches in Terry Oconnor and Paul King Cullen. Correct people in place at the club.

Halifax - Up to date website, would need to employ more staff in key positions within the club to advance.

Leigh - Not a bad website but can be improved, probably need a couple more key individuals added to the club.


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10







Totals


Widnes 46
Halifax 35
Leigh 35

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:01 pm  

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

Lets look at Widnes/Fax/Leigh, will give marks out of 10 at the end of each group


Sponsorship

Widnes - Stobarts

Halifax - Halifax home insurance thingy me bob

Leigh - JR (local pie seller)???

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10
Leigh - 4/10

Ground

Widnes - Stobart Stadium all seater

Halifax - Half good half bad, once finished will look decent enough

Leigh - Cracking sports Village

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10 (if finished)
Leigh - 9/10

Support

Widnes - average at around 3,800

Halifax - average at around 2,400

Leigh - average at around 1,900

Widnes - 6/10
Halifax - 5/10
Leigh - 4/10

Chairman

Widnes - Steve O'connor - Millionaire business man who works for a huge company

Halifax - Michael Steele - apologies but dont know anything about him

Leigh - Arthur Thomas - Millionaire??????

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10

Youth setup/scholarship/community

Widnes - Run at all ages and have award winning community programme. 6 home grown in squad

Halifax - No academy at any level but decent community work.

Leigh - Reserve side but no academy or foundation, award winning community work. Numerous home grown in squad


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 4/10
Leigh - 6/10

Professional club setup/Media prescense

Widnes - Up to date official website, and sky media bitches in Terry Oconnor and Paul King Cullen. Correct people in place at the club.

Halifax - Up to date website, would need to employ more staff in key positions within the club to advance.

Leigh - Not a bad website but can be improved, probably need a couple more key individuals added to the club.


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10







Totals


Widnes 46
Halifax 35
Leigh 35

I can't say I agree with all your marking but to be honest come 2011 a lot could change and you must realise that.

If Leigh get relagated the gamble of bulding a team from next year will of failed, if we stay up,we will be 100% stronger next year on many fronts.

The French bid will definately be a strong one and Gateshead have a lot of backing.

Widnes are in the box seat but as you know only too well the RFL are anything but fair in whatever they do.

I just wish everyone would enjoy a great League that we are in at present,the speculation about Franchising drives me nuts.

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:31 pm  

Vikingman - you should be on the selection panel ! A good effort there, nice bit of research and no shocks. Well done - a better "licensee" than Al Murray