Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:03 am  

Chris B wrote:

Do we know it's that date yet? AFAIK it's simply still the same old vague 'sometime in March'.

Who knows with the RFL? Applications go into the RFL in the next two weeks, so be nice if they decided for Christmas.Santa comes with the best present ever for Widnes fans.

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:38 pm  

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

Vic i must admit i used to get wound up, but now i laugh at it all.We are the best placed team in the Championship with the RFL criteria.So look forward to our application been one of the best. I am taking time off on the 31st March 2011,to hopefully party at the club.

I can't argue with that cockle. I just hope its not the Ides of March.

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

Chris B wrote:

Do we know it's that date yet? AFAIK it's simply still the same old vague 'sometime in March'.

Who knows with the RFL? Applications go into the RFL in the next two weeks, so be nice if they decided for Christmas.Santa comes with the best present ever for Widnes fans.

In fact, I might even book myself a flight home that week and get involved!



Now that the RFL has had govt wraps for tackling equality and homophobia why don't we get Elton & David to deliver our bid? Just to add the irresistible cherry on to the top of our application!!

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:17 am  

HatedAndAdored wrote:

I think Nat is under the illusion that our accounts posted for 2009 - 2010 somehow doesn't include our 2009 NRC win and that our 'lowered attendance' and lack of silverware contribute (from this financial year) somehow contribute to the figures we recently posted (from the last financial year).

The guy is thick.

The last set of accounts we posted were for Nov 2008-Nov 2009

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:29 am  

A.N.Other Viking wrote:

The last set of accounts we posted were for Nov 2008-Nov 2009

Thanks, that's what I meant .. I've been sipping night nurse all week and it's taking it's toll..

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:25 pm  

Vic King wrote:

Care to substantiate that?

I believe it is a matter of public record that Steve O'Connor set up a charitable fund/trust with the sum of £1.8M in 2008.

That money, in its entirety, was called upon by the Widnes Sport Ltd in the financial year 2008-2009. It was entered as income in your accounts and was used I imagine to service debts among other things (seating? etc), the surplus of this figure is I believe in the region of £1M and is recorded as profit in the accounts for the period in question. Your clubs accounts, like all businesses (e.g. S O'Connors) are a matter of public record and available to anyone.

To be honest I fail to see why Widnes fans are getting angry. Congratulations on having a professional and financially committed chairman. You now have a well run club with a healthy bank balance, in fact I would say its a bank balance that is the envy of British RL as no other club bar Batley (of all people) have posted a profit in years without selling their assets. To get upset by people (truthfully) stating that the profit you declared was due to income received from a trust set up by your chairman seems ridiculous and is no doubt providing great amusement to those who have an issue with your club.

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:08 pm  

Off! Number Seven wrote:

To be honest I fail to see why Widnes fans are getting angry. Congratulations on having a professional and financially committed chairman. You now have a well run club with a healthy bank balance, in fact I would say its a bank balance that is the envy of British RL as no other club bar Batley (of all people) have posted a profit in years without selling their assets. To get upset by people (truthfully) stating that the profit you declared was due to income received from a trust set up by your chairman seems ridiculous and is no doubt providing great amusement to those who have an issue with your club.

I dont honestly think kev was having a dig at Widnes , when he made that statement , think most of us see widnes as the most professional club in our division , and thats why he made the comparision and pointed out why you had made such a profit to show how well we had done , in wiping out half our debt in one season, and were on course to have no debt come this time next season , so why the rfl had picked on us to send out that e mail , especially as he had talked to inland revenue , who were happy with our arrangements to pay off outstandin money , had him bemused , your books look good for your SL application , as does Halifaxs gate , thanks to a massive turn out from Batley in the last game of the season good luck with the application

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:37 pm  

Apparently KN has stated that the RFL have assured him that all clubs are being treated the same......that'll be a first

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:18 pm  

bulldog bob wrote:

I dont honestly think kev was having a dig at Widnes , when he made that statement , think most of us see widnes as the most professional club in our division , and thats why he made the comparision and pointed out why you had made such a profit to show how well we had done , in wiping out half our debt in one season, and were on course to have no debt come this time next season , so why the rfl had picked on us to send out that e mail , especially as he had talked to inland revenue , who were happy with our arrangements to pay off outstandin money , had him bemused , your books look good for your SL application , as does Halifaxs gate , thanks to a massive turn out from Batley in the last game of the season good luck with the application

I think what annoys us Widnes fans is that we're trying to quietly go about our own business but are continually drawn in to other people's arguments. Many of us (myself included) just saw this as someone taking yet another pop at us... Despite my rantings I have no ill feelings towards Batley or any club for that matter. It is the RFL that have brought all this unrest.

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:02 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

I was talking about the Batley Chairman pointing out that the RFL are not applying this rule to every club in the game. And if you actually believe that you made a 1M profit, a year after you made a loss, with lower attendances, no prize money and loss of pre-season due to the weather then you are deluded. There is nothing wrong with it, it is clear that O'Connor is bankrolling the club.

There wouldn't have been any loss but for the investment in infrastructure and paying off some of the creditors from the previous board. The cost of this came to £1.2Million. So, if we only lost £1Million then it is feasible that we may have actually made a £200k profit that year, but for the clubs' initial expenditure.

So there you go.

Re: Batley Chairman tells it like it is! : Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:48 pm  

[quote="Vic King"]I can't argue with that cockle. I just hope its not the Ides of March.

Oh missus not the Ides of March again. Titter thy not. Ney Ney thrice Ney. Silly cow.