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| Why doesnt the RFL introduce a representitive game such as England V World select XIII series or even reintroduce the Yorks V Lancs series, and by world i mean imports in super league and the french players. Wouldnt this expose the players to more games of better quality? Of course i could be utterly wrong on this but i am curious as to why it isnt really considered.
I also had a look at the wikipedia section on the Roses matches and the attendances seem quite poor, why is this as i thought a Roses clash would attract more people?
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| England Vs World Select XIII - No, it would be an embarresmant, we'd get hammered.
Lancashire Vs Yorkshire - Yes, we need something to rival State of Origin and a bit or representative rivalry.
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| Quote stew88_RL="stew88_RL"Why doesnt the RFL introduce a representitive game such as England V World select XIII series or even reintroduce the Yorks V Lancs series, and by world i mean imports in super league and the french players. Wouldnt this expose the players to more games of better quality? Of course i could be utterly wrong on this but i am curious as to why it isnt really considered.
I also had a look at the wikipedia section on the Roses matches and the attendances seem quite poor, why is this as i thought a Roses clash would attract more people?'"
How about Yorkshire v Lancashire for championship and championship one club players. Thay have less fixture congestion and fans at that level would probably be more interested in watching the game. Case for including Cumbria too.
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| Quote espanyolswan="espanyolswan"How about Yorkshire v Lancashire for championship and championship one club players. Thay have less fixture congestion and fans at that level would probably be more interested in watching the game. Case for including Cumbria too.'"
lancs vs yorks vs cumbria. id definitely pay to watch that.
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| Quote ~ No1 Saints Fan ~="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"England Vs World Select XIII - No, it would be an embarresmant, we'd get hammered.
Lancashire Vs Yorkshire - Yes, we need something to rival State of Origin and a bit or representative rivalry.'"
The England V world XIII was a stab in the dark, but i did actually think the best imports + the french against would be quite even given the imports dont exactly run away with it the weekly fixtures. Dobson for Rovers is the only who really stands out consistently in my opinion.
But yes we definitely need a representitive series and Yorks V Lancs would be the best, even though the nos of SL games would probably have to cut to accomodate it, but i think that should happen anyway.
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| Quote ~ No1 Saints Fan ~="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"England Vs World Select XIII - No, it would be an embarresmant, we'd get hammered.
Lancashire Vs Yorkshire - Yes, we need something to rival State of Origin and a bit or representative rivalry.'"
totally agree with you
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| I like the idea of the roses games being resurrected, maybe played midweek to avoid scrapping a weekend of super league games. Maybe look at a rule of having to select a certain number of players from the championship to generate more interest.
Plenty of players in the nrl play origin and then play for their clubs the same weekend so I don't see why our players, who are supposedly as fit as the Aussies would struggle.
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| Quote Fletcher-end-red="Fletcher-end-red"I like the idea of the roses games being resurrected, maybe played midweek to avoid scrapping a weekend of super league games. Maybe look at a rule of having to select a certain number of players from the championship to generate more interest.
Plenty of players in the nrl play origin and then play for their clubs the same weekend so I don't see why our players, who are supposedly as fit as the Aussies would struggle.'"
I disagree with that bit to be honest. The whole point of more rep. games is to have players playing more a larger amount of intense games, so it should be the best players elligible. Lancashire & Yorkshire may work if it is given time to be built up, we either need to do it consistently for 10 years or so, or not do it at all.
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| Quote stew88_RL="stew88_RL"The England V world XIII was a stab in the dark, but i did actually think the best imports + the french against would be quite even given the imports dont exactly run away with it the weekly fixtures. Dobson for Rovers is the only who really stands out consistently in my opinion.
But yes we definitely need a representitive series and Yorks V Lancs would be the best, even though the nos of SL games would probably have to cut to accomodate it, but i think that should happen anyway.'"
You need to watch a few more games I think.
Berrigan, Webb, Leuluai,Manu, Gene, Obst, that guy at Cas with the tattoos and dodgy beard whos name escapes me, etc etc etc.
Would be a good idea to have rest of the world team though as I feel that some imports who were once internationals but can no longer represent their countries may well be inspired to raise their standard and not take the cash and run. I am thinking about players such as King at wire who is clearly here for the cash and is totally unmotivated. ( just an opinion having watched him and read what wire fans feel )
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| Quote Saint #1="Saint #1"I disagree with that bit to be honest. The whole point of more rep. games is to have players playing more a larger amount of intense games, so it should be the best players elligible. Lancashire & Yorkshire may work if it is given time to be built up, we either need to do it consistently for 10 years or so, or not do it at all.'"
I agree. also if it were to be done it wouldnt be an immediate hit on or off the field, but the right promotional work and common sense stadium selection it has great potential.
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| Quote RENDELL="RENDELL"You need to watch a few more games I think.
Berrigan, Webb, Leuluai,Manu, Gene, Obst, that guy at Cas with the tattoos and dodgy beard whos name escapes me, etc etc etc.'"
there all great players but when i said Dobson i meant that when you watch him he looks a cut above the rest of the imports at the moment anyway, he just seems to do everything for Rovers. i agree with you that some of the imports treat the SL like a holiday camp or something
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| Quote stew88_RL="stew88_RL"there all great players but when i said Dobson i meant that when you watch him he looks a cut above the rest of the imports at the moment anyway, he just seems to do everything for Rovers. i agree with you that some of the imports treat the SL like a holiday camp or something'"
What about Gidley? Looks a class above the rest of the centres in Super League IMO.
Also, I think that this would only work if clubs had to release their players to play the games. It would be no use if some of the teams weren't letting their best players feature in this game/series, if it was to happen.
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| I feel that rep football never gets a chance because the crowds are not good. What we have to realise though is that we all love our clubs and splash the cash accordingly. We then follow GB / England as we still hope we will do well against the Aussies / Kiwis. SOO is so well followed in Oz because its the only competitive game they feel they will see as they ( in the arrogance, though its well placed) beat us and the Kiwis every time.
We either accept that Lanc v Yorkshire will only be watched by 5000 and run with it or we carry on as we are.
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| Quote RENDELL="RENDELL"SOO is so well followed in Oz because its the only competitive game they feel they will see as they ( in the arrogance, though its well placed) [ibeat us and the Kiwis every time.[/i '"
not every time 
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| Regarding the roses series what would a player like Rob Purdham do? Born in Cumbria and repping quins down south how would he be eligible for either county, would he want to play for them.
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| Quote stew88_RL="stew88_RL"Why doesnt the RFL introduce a representitive game such as England V World select XIII series or even reintroduce the Yorks V Lancs series, and by world i mean imports in super league and the french players. Wouldnt this expose the players to more games of better quality? Of course i could be utterly wrong on this but i am curious as to why it isnt really considered.
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We'd end up with Dom Peters on the wing again.
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| Would a home nations championship done properly not work? Playing games at towns who dont normally get the action, and sell the TV rights to a channel like 4, 5 or even the BBC? At least then everyone gets to see it.
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| Quote jonny the leyther="jonny the leyther"Would a home nations championship done properly not work? Playing games at towns who dont normally get the action, and sell the TV rights to a channel like 4, 5 or even the BBC? At least then everyone gets to see it.'"
i think that should be an aspiration of the RFL, but the other home nations will need a SL frachise at least before they could even start to compete with a full England side annually
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