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| These players are out of contract at the end of this season.
What would you do?
Chris Annakin,
Tinirau Arona,
David Fifita,
Danny Kirmond,
Pauli Pauli,
Tyler Randell
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| Move heaven and earth to keep big Dave
Assumed this would be Danny’s last season after the reduced contract and testimonial year.
Would like to keep PP, Arona and Randell if possible. Annnakin a good squad player as well.
Thought Rocky only signed for a year too? Have I missed something there?
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| I'd like to keep Kirmond but if he retires Hadley is out of contract at Hull.
I'm not sure Randell is able to compete physically at this level with the number of injuries he has.
If we didn't keep him there are a number of Hooker available.
Dwyer at Leeds (and Parcell if we use quota spot)
Lunt at HKR - clearly an influential player
Cunningham at London - good prospect
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| Quote wakefieldwall="wakefieldwall"Move heaven and earth to keep big Dave
Assumed this would be Danny’s last season after the reduced contract and testimonial year.
Would like to keep PP, Arona and Randell if possible. Annnakin a good squad player as well.
Thought Rocky only signed for a year too? Have I missed something there?'"
I think you are right about Rocky. He wasn't on the list but he def signed a one year extension at beginning of season.
I got the list from an article on TotalRL. Com
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"These players are out of contract at the end of this season.
What would you do?
Chris Annakin,
Tinirau Arona,
David Fifita,
Danny Kirmond,
Pauli Pauli,
Tyler Randell'"
Also out of contract i believe are Hampshire, Huby, England, Hirst, Crowther, Horo & Baldwinson.
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| Oh...... Better start again with this list.
I'll see if I can work it out myself rather than follow a half baked press story.
My fault.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Oh...... Better start again with this list.
I'll see if I can work it out myself rather than follow a half baked press story.
My fault.'"
I saw the same one haha
Based on your list though.
Chris Annakin - 28 now, not the young blockbusting prospect he once was. Probably better suited at Dewsbury or somewhere like that in the Championship.
Tinirau Arona - Resign providing the money is right...
David Fifita - Top priority - resign.
Danny Kirmond - I'd presume this will be his last year.
Pauli Pauli - Resign and continue to work on his fitness. Has proved to be a key player in certain games.
Tyler Randell - Unfortunately I would be looking to let Randell go and look for a hungrier possibly homegrown Hooker to play on the back of Wood.
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| Quote TheDreadnought="TheDreadnought"I saw the same one haha
Based on your list though.
Chris Annakin - 28 now, not the young blockbusting prospect he once was. Probably better suited at Dewsbury or somewhere like that in the Championship.
Tinirau Arona - Resign providing the money is right...
David Fifita - Top priority - resign.
Danny Kirmond - I'd presume this will be his last year.
Pauli Pauli - Resign and continue to work on his fitness. Has proved to be a key player in certain games.
Tyler Randell - Unfortunately I would be looking to let Randell go and look for a hungrier possibly homegrown Hooker to play on the back of Wood.'"
This is what I'd go along with.
Randell is a grafter who does a lot of work behind the scenes but he never turned out to be what I expected - whatever that was, perhaps somebody more potent in attack like Woody.
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| Agree with most of what has been said.
Randell is solid defensively which i think goes unnoticed sometimes and also I think it works well spelling him and Woody. If the money was right i'd probably be offering him another contract but him leaving and freeing up a quota spot certainly wouldn't be the end of the world.
Annakin - again i would keep if the money was right. Solid squad player you know if he comes in he won't let anyone down. I reckon this time he may go part time and find another job as rumored before, presuming the money is better for him.
Pauli we really should keep. Invaluable having a second rower who pitches in with tries and also draws so many defenders.
Hampshire has also been mentioned and i would hope we are in discussions over a longer term contract with him. Can cover halves well and has played well at full back. Jowitt is a solid back up/competition for fullback. Hooley also can't be far from being ready for the first team who can play fullback/halfback i believe? With these options will Reynolds have many opportunities? Maybe look to move him on to free up some funds.
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| I for one am happy to leave all this speculation on one side, I feel distinctly uncomfortable talking about people as if they were no more than assets to be disposed of when they are finished with.
I reckon this must be the hardest part of managing a professional sports team, in such an environment they are more like family than colleagues. Many players suffer psychologically when they leave a team they feel a part of, or when they leave the game - I hope any player who leaves our club knows that their efforts have been appreciated by us fans. There are, of course, exceptions to this - players who haven't had the bottle a club like ours needs - but even they deserve some respect. Except Mc...
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| Quote RWB="RWB"Agree with most of what has been said.
Randell is solid defensively which i think goes unnoticed sometimes and also I think it works well spelling him and Woody. If the money was right i'd probably be offering him another contract but him leaving and freeing up a quota spot certainly wouldn't be the end of the world.
Annakin - again i would keep if the money was right. Solid squad player you know if he comes in he won't let anyone down. I reckon this time he may go part time and find another job as rumored before, presuming the money is better for him.
Pauli we really should keep. Invaluable having a second rower who pitches in with tries and also draws so many defenders.
Hampshire has also been mentioned and i would hope we are in discussions over a longer term contract with him. Can cover halves well and has played well at full back. Jowitt is a solid back up/competition for fullback. Hooley also can't be far from being ready for the first team who can play fullback/halfback i believe? With these options will Reynolds have many opportunities? Maybe look to move him on to free up some funds.'"
You're probably right on the Randell situation, I was purely thinking from a Quota perspective.
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| Quote wakeyrule="wakeyrule"I for one am happy to leave all this speculation on one side, I feel distinctly uncomfortable talking about people as if they were no more than assets to be disposed of when they are finished with.
I reckon this must be the hardest part of managing a professional sports team, in such an environment they are more like family than colleagues. Many players suffer psychologically when they leave a team they feel a part of, or when they leave the game - I hope any player who leaves our club knows that their efforts have been appreciated by us fans. There are, of course, exceptions to this - players who haven't had the bottle a club like ours needs - but even they deserve some respect. Except Mc...'"
I do have some sympathy in your views and find it difficult not to agree with what you are saying. But in the interest of fairness and balance, you must also remember that players employ agents who can be equally as mercenary.
Having said that I will not go down the list but just say, Fifita and Hampshire must be the out and out priorities and leave the rest for others to decide.
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| Quote wakeyrule="wakeyrule"I for one am happy to leave all this speculation on one side, I feel distinctly uncomfortable talking about people as if they were no more than assets to be disposed of when they are finished with.
I reckon this must be the hardest part of managing a professional sports team, in such an environment they are more like family than colleagues. Many players suffer psychologically when they leave a team they feel a part of, or when they leave the game - I hope any player who leaves our club knows that their efforts have been appreciated by us fans. There are, of course, exceptions to this - players who haven't had the bottle a club like ours needs - but even they deserve some respect. Except Mc...'"
I don't think anyone is really disrespectful in their comments about players. It's merely a discussion and exchange of thoughts about the contribution players have made and would make if they were retained. All done in the knowledge, of course, that MC and CC won't take a blind bit of notice about what we experts say!
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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"I do have some sympathy in your views and find it difficult not to agree with what you are saying. But in the interest of fairness and balance, you must also remember that players employ agents who can be equally as mercenary.
Having said that I will not go down the list but just say, Fifita and Hampshire must be the out and out priorities and leave the rest for others to decide.'"
I like Hampshire and he should be re-signed if possible. I say that, because wasn't he the one that only wanted a one year deal? I know a few on here commented on his commitment at the time but perhaps he's ready for a longer contract now?
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| I agree PB. Fifita and Rocky are priority. Releasing a player or two releases funds for re distribution. There are better men than me in charge who will be 100% on the case.
I am sure the bulk of the squad will be kept together.
Annakin and Baldwinson haven't featured much. Reynolds has potential and will probably get a run or two later in the season.
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| I'm surprised anyone wants to let Randell go if we are to operate 2 9's
For me, they compliment each other and can change a game simply because their strengths are so different.
Couple of game changers there but in different areas of the game, I like the options both of them together allow... 
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| Quote Upanunder="Upanunder"I'm surprised anyone wants to let Randell go if we are to operate 2 9's
For me, they compliment each other and can change a game simply because their strengths are so different.
Couple of game changers there but in different areas of the game, I like the options both of them together allow...
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I just think there are other hookers out there, who probably won't be on as much and wont take up a quota spot.
Liam Hood is in fine form at the moment and I hope nobody takes this as a joke but I would've 100% take a punt if he hadn't already signed for Leigh. He's a hell of a defender and he seems to have improved going forward also. I think the point I'm trying to make is unless the money is right, I don't see Randell as irreplaceable...
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| Quote TheDreadnought="TheDreadnought"I just think there are other hookers out there, who probably won't be on as much and wont take up a quota spot.'"
Who are these hookers which you have failed to mention who you think are out there, and who you think won't be on as much money, and more importantly won't take up a quota spot, I bet there's loads of them the problem is will they enhance the team.
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| Quote little wayne69="little wayne69"Who are these hookers which you have failed to mention who you think are out there, and who you think won't be on as much money, and more importantly won't take up a quota spot, I bet there's loads of them the problem is will they enhance the team.'"
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[i[u"Liam Hood is in fine form at the moment and I hope nobody takes this as a joke but I would've 100% take a punt if he hadn't already signed for Leigh. He's a hell of a defender and he seems to have improved going forward also. I think the point I'm trying to make is unless the money is right, I don't see Randell as irreplaceable..."[/u[/i

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| Quote TheDreadnought="TheDreadnought"Liam Hood is in fine form at the moment and I hope nobody takes this as a joke but I would've 100% take a punt[u if he hadn't already signed for Leigh.[/u He's a hell of a defender and he seems to have improved going forward also. [uI think the point I'm trying to make is unless the money is right, I don't see Randell as irreplaceable.[/u
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So he's not really out there is he
Your not really making a point, just stating your opinion.
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Quote little wayne69="little wayne69"So he's not really out there is he
Your not really making a point, just stating your opinion.'"
I will admit that it would be difficult to obtain a signature from someone like Hood, who's just joined a club but I won't say it's impossible. You see it probably too often where a player doesn't honour a contract and joins another club. Remember when Chris Tuson agreed to join Wakefield only to go against his word and join Hull FC?
That's fine mate, you're correct I was only stating my opinion and it wasn't a point but as you felt the need to correct me on that, I'll just point out that you used "Your" incorrectly though, it should've been you're.
Take a look at this.
https://www.espressoenglish.net/differe ... and-youre/
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Quote little wayne69="little wayne69"So he's not really out there is he
Your not really making a point, just stating your opinion.'"
I will admit that it would be difficult to obtain a signature from someone like Hood, who's just joined a club but I won't say it's impossible. You see it probably too often where a player doesn't honour a contract and joins another club. Remember when Chris Tuson agreed to join Wakefield only to go against his word and join Hull FC?
That's fine mate, you're correct I was only stating my opinion and it wasn't a point but as you felt the need to correct me on that, I'll just point out that you used "Your" incorrectly though, it should've been you're.
Take a look at this.
https://www.espressoenglish.net/differe ... and-youre/
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Quote TheDreadnought="TheDreadnought"I will admit that it would be difficult to obtain a signature from someone like Hood, who's just joined a club but I won't say it's impossible. You see it probably too often where a player doesn't honour a contract and joins another club. Remember when Chris Tuson agreed to join Wakefield only to go against his word and join Hull FC?
That's fine mate, you're correct I was only stating my opinion and it wasn't a point but as you felt the need to correct me on that,[u I'll just point out that you used "Your" incorrectly though, it should've been you're.
Take a look at this.
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https://www.espressoenglish.net/differe ... and-youre/'"
Your quite right I can only apologise for my indiscretion in my haste to state an opinion, never had you down for the grammar police, is FIL a user name of yours?.
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Quote TheDreadnought="TheDreadnought"I will admit that it would be difficult to obtain a signature from someone like Hood, who's just joined a club but I won't say it's impossible. You see it probably too often where a player doesn't honour a contract and joins another club. Remember when Chris Tuson agreed to join Wakefield only to go against his word and join Hull FC?
That's fine mate, you're correct I was only stating my opinion and it wasn't a point but as you felt the need to correct me on that,[u I'll just point out that you used "Your" incorrectly though, it should've been you're.
Take a look at this.
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https://www.espressoenglish.net/differe ... and-youre/'"
Your quite right I can only apologise for my indiscretion in my haste to state an opinion, never had you down for the grammar police, is FIL a user name of yours?.
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| Quote wakefieldwall="wakefieldwall"Move heaven and earth to keep big Dave
Assumed this would be Danny’s last season after the reduced contract and testimonial year.
Would like to keep PP, Arona and Randell if possible. Annnakin a good squad player as well.
Thought Rocky only signed for a year too? Have I missed something there?'"
Keep Randell what have you been smoking???
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| I would keep most of those to be fair.
Not sure I would keep Annakin though. He is a tryer and hows loves a tryer, and hes a useful squad player, but could how contract money be better used yo retain better players, or be used to strengthen the depth in other positions.
I would keep Randell. He does get through a los of work, and makes Kyles a workload easier. He also has a very smart kicking game. Some way hes been a shadow of himself, and not the same from when he first came in. Could the injury hed been carrying have something to do with it?
Pauli not sure. On his day looks very good, but could the change to the interchange rule take its toll on how engine. Would we be better off with a straight up and down prop so to speak, like England or Koppy, who can do bit minutes.
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| Quote newgroundb4cas="newgroundb4cas"Keep Randell what have you been smoking???'"
Agreed. Randall’s only mistake was to have an astonishing debut that’s he’s not matched since giving people false expectations. In fact he is what he is, a competent reliable player who isn’t flashy but does the job - he’s also versatile as he looks at home at 9 and 13.
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